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  •  Sometimes, even something so stupid as racism (1+ / 0-)
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    can serve several simultaneous purposes.  Each of the Three Amigos, for all their apparent challenges, has been around long enough to know how such statements will play out politically.  

    The broader point is that Dr. Rice has not been a voice for diplomacy in MENA.  The prospect of her appointment as Sec of State should be widely alarming, but for some reason the response has been muted.  I think this pretty much captures why.

    •  Really? (1+ / 0-)
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      Each of the Three Amigos, for all their apparent challenges, has been around long enough to know how such statements will play out politically.
      In 2010 they watched as a racist fueled Teahadist movement took over the House. Hell, John McCain went all anti-immigrant just to hold on to his seat. He knows the value of playing to the racists as much as anyone in the Republican party.

      I think you're reading way too much into their motives. You can fight Occam's Razor all you want, but don't blame me when you get cuts and gouges from doing so.

      To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

      by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 02:18:37 PM PST

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      •  Susan Rice and John McCain are natural allies on (1+ / 0-)
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        escalating US military action in MENA.  I can understand, however, why they don't passionately embrace in public.

        After all, they both seem to endorse the notion that the road to Iran goes through Iraq, Libya and Damascus.  That is, after all, the way that these things seem to be leading.  I could find nothing to indicate otherwise.

        Frankly, that scares me more than just a little.

        •  But look at what John McCain did with regards (1+ / 0-)
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          to Libya. You'd think he'd be all over bombing Gadhafi to smithereens yet he attacked the President on his actions repeatedly. Not for more bombing, but calling the actions illegal. He's always taking a stance against the President. Mostly, I think, because McCain is still bitter he lost the 2008 election. It's far easier for me to see how John is a bitter, resentful, racist rather than some part of a scheme to smear Rice to further some backroom deal.

          The Republicans hate the fact that the US actions in Libya helped achieve the goal of removing Gadhafi from power. Hell, I'm not happy with it, we throw our military hardware around far too much. But that's not what upsets the Republicans, they took a stand against the President on Libya and it backfired on them. Then they hoped that Benghazi would erupt into an October Surprise that would cost Obama the election. It didn't. But one thing Republicans don't do is give up. They'll tilt at the windmill of Libya until they get something out of it. And if they can block Susan Rice from the SoS role they'll declare victory on the whole thing and move on to the next distraction.

          To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

          by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 02:39:12 PM PST

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          •  McCain was all buddy-buddy with Gadhafi (1+ / 0-)
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            for a while after Gadhafi took the DC deal in 2002.

            In late May 2002, then Undersecretary of State Richard Armitage revealed in an interview in Murdoch's Times of London that AQ Khan had for two decades been peddling used Pakistani centrifuges to half the Muslim world, including Libya, Iraq, and Iran.  

            With the details provided by Gadhaffi, that  presented the Bush team with multiple opportunities for Cassus Belli, particularly against Iraq.  Why Iraq, instead of Iran?  For a while there, in mid-2002, there seemed to have been some debate about that, but in the end Iraq was chosen, probably because it seemed the easier target.

            The necons in Washington didn't much care about contrary intelligence that Iraq had effectively destroyed its AQ Khan-provided nuclear program after the First Gulf War, and steamrollered over the voices within CIA who tried to point that out.   That's the background to the Plame Affair.  Please, see,  http://www.dailykos.com/...  

            Until the Bush team departed, Libya was a State Department approved business and rendition destination.  McCain went there himself (I recall in 2007) and had a ho-down at Muammar's "ranch."  But, beware of American emissaries bearing gifts and offering assurances.  That was a mistake that Manuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein also made.  

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