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  •  Now that's a result (10+ / 0-)

    Rience can be proud of!

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    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
    ~ Jerry Garcia

    by DeadHead on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 02:12:11 AM PST

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    •  I Could Talk For Hours And Hours (25+ / 0-)

      about how my parents have changed. It didn't happen over night. It took years and even decades. But change did happen. 20 or so years ago my dad would call a person of colar a "nigger" or "negro." Much more recent somebody a "fag."

      Myself and my brother told my dad this wasn't acceptable. Not close to "cool." Then maybe we introduced them to a family member that was kind of openly gay, lif they just paid attention.

      That gay couple are my parents best friends right now.

      My parents, oh and I have stories, are about as pro gay rights as anybody I know. It just took some effort on my end to help them, push them, and all is good now in my household.

      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

      by webranding on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 02:30:15 AM PST

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      •  We all educate our friends and family (11+ / 0-)

        I am a white gentile of a certain age.  I have taught more of my peers than I would care to imagine that the phrase, "Jew someone down on price" is unacceptable and is an insulting stereotype and is racist and ugly.  And now, younger Americans need to unlearn that calling someone "a Fag" is just as unacceptable and ugly and it is homophbic as well.  We boomers already learned these lessons, years ago.  It is the younger crowd (my grandson, 11 yrs old, who is learning this lesson now - because - the word has gotten common usage as a pejorative, as an insult amoung teen and young adult Americans.

        When will they ever learn...

        •  The word 'fag' (4+ / 0-)

          was a generic pejorative used among guys when my huz was growing up in Irish working class Brooklyn in the 60's and 70's; it didn't necessarily (or only) mean gay; it meant 'different' or 'not tough enough.'  My husband was a 'fag' because he didn't like to fight, for instance.  It was obvious that he liked girls.

          He didn't fully grasp its true meaning (and hurtfulness) until he was in his late teens.

          My stepdaughter and her generation (she's 19, in college) have a different issue to overcome.  Like some blacks (the hip hop culture) have appropriated the 'n' word (perhaps, internalized it as well?), she and her friends regularly call each other 'bitches' and 'sluts.'  

          Personally I think words are much more powerful emotionally and spiritually than we understand and I think referring to each other in friendly pejoratives is very, very damaging.  Let's see how she feels after she takes her first women's studies course next term (forced on her by her left stepmom!)

          "The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions, and evils, is rooted in the three poisons. Greed, anger, and delusion." - Bodhidharma

          by hopesprings on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 07:38:16 AM PST

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          •  Let's hope the course will educate her (3+ / 0-)
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            My granddaughter (16) is well educated (just received a nice used car as a gift from her maternal grandparents) and she does not use the words "bitches" and "sluts."  She would never use those words.  She makes me proud as her paternal - Papatom.  I love her very much.

            •  I check into (3+ / 0-)
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              my SD's twitter feed now and then and my heart hurts.  To them this dialogue is very cool, hip, sophisticated.  Their role models are reality show girls with no class or shame, even though they are students at an excellent (and expensive!) private university.  They don't understand that there are deeper implications to what they do and say (or post on FACEBOOK & Twitter - the internet is forever!)

              "The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions, and evils, is rooted in the three poisons. Greed, anger, and delusion." - Bodhidharma

              by hopesprings on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 08:03:52 AM PST

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              •  I agree with you that words matter so much (2+ / 0-)
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                and there are "deeper implications" to which words are chosen/selected and used.  So many young people seem unaware of the forever/serious implications and consequences of posting anything online.

                Hope that she becomes aware and educated.  Reality show girls are not good role models, at all.

          •  Thank you for explaining (1+ / 0-)
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            I was a "Fag" in both senses of the word - 1.  I Didn't like to fight & I was not "tough,"  and 2.  I am gay.

            It is strange but I went to small Catholic schools and did not hear the word "Fag" used until I went into the Air Force.  Many "tough" young men in the 60's considered the whole USAF a "Fag" organization.  I was not totally in the closet then anyway.  The Air Force was somewhat gay friendly back in the late '60's & '70's at certain Air Bases (much depended on the Base Commander).

      •  My parents have changed a (8+ / 0-)

        great deal as well. Unfortunately, they've been Foxified and have gone from the rational, nice people who raised me to the angry, fear-mongered, intolerant people of today's RNC - sort of like Reince Priebus.

        I used to wonder why somebody didn't do something, then I realized I am somebody.- unknown

        by Brimi on Wed Nov 28, 2012 at 04:41:25 AM PST

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