Skip to main content

View Diary: What the hell is THIS?! [Updated] (226 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Demand jail time instead of money (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    qofdisks

    Here's the rub.  Does this school district even have $15 million to spend on lawsuits and lawyers?  How many kids will lose their access to education as the district goes broke paying for this?  And does that get us anywhere?

    One POS already killed himself.  If the others would follow suit, we'd be home free.

    Instead, we'll have to jail them.  Isn't that better?  To put the actual child molesters in jail rather than stealing $15 million from children who did nothing wrong?

    I promise you, if the multi-million dollar lawsuit was dropped and criminal charges pursued instead, then the school district will side with the child.

    Instead, the district is being asked to side with one child and bankrupt the education for all the others.

    •  So how many do you put in jail? (4+ / 0-)

      The actual molesters (at least the ones still living)? The administrators who turned a blind eye? Police investigators who might have discounted the parents' complaints? And who pays for the therapy costs for this young woman as she grows up and deals with what happened to her?

      Chances are the money amount will be bargained down in court. And the school district may have some sort of insurance policy that covers this sort of misconduct so it'll be the insurance company on the hook (which will likely mean higher insurance rates).

      But when it comes to this sort of crime, whether we're talking about a school district or the Catholic Church, only monetary punishment will get the proper attention from people. And I'm a California taxpayer (though not in the Moraga area) so I'm one of those who'll likely be on the hook...and I can assure you I'll take a close look at practices in my own school district when it comes time for school board elections so this sort of thing doesn't happen here.

      (Oh, and your suggestion that we might be better off if the perpetrators commit suicide is borderline HR-worthy.)

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 08:57:43 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  And who pays the $15 million? (0+ / 0-)

        You want to give that young woman therapy?  Then why not just demand that be paid for, instead of holding the school district hostage for money they don't have.

        How does taking $15 million from innocent taxpayers punish the administrators or police?  How?  They won't be personally punished.  Hold them criminally accountable if that's what you want.  You can give your money to lawyers, but it won't stop the next abuser.  Only criminal charges do that.

        And if you want to HR me and coddle child molesters, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.   I wish nothing but a painful death upon those who abuse children.  So go right ahead and HR me, I could care less.  We are better if child molesters kill themselves, stop denying reality.

        •  Because the law does not allow that, you have (3+ / 0-)

          to specify an up front monetary amount.  You can't just say "any therapy related to the rapes for the next 15 years" (and yes, it can easily take that long if not longer to recover).

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 09:19:40 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Great point (4+ / 0-)

            Likely it will be bargained down, or the jury will come back with an amount significantly less than what's requested but enough to hurt those ultimately responsible.

            The thing is, it's more than just the perpetrators responsible; it's those in charge who did not take due diligence in protecting the child. Procedures should be in place to prevent this from occurring, and if this incident (and the court result) goads other districts into taking steps to ensure this doesn't happen to them, that would be the best result for all children.

            The worst thing that could happen would be to say, "What happens to kids doesn't matter because we don't have the money." And that's what I'm seeing from way too many folks in this diary.

            "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

            by Cali Scribe on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 09:28:28 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

          •  I don't agree with the 15 years to recover. (0+ / 0-)

            In a sense, there is no real "recovery".  I just don't think that 15 years of therapy would help.  There is a point of diminishing returns using therapy.  
            Therapy can only point the way to recovery.  The victim has to choose recovery for themselves.
            The district should pay a capped therapy say 1 or 2 years twice a month.

            •  Well, you could say that no professional therapy (0+ / 0-)

              should be paid for because you can learn to recover on your own if you are willing to do the time and research.  I am sure there is therapist course material on Coursera.

              You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

              by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 09:39:36 AM PST

              [ Parent ]

            •  Holy shit (5+ / 0-)

              Really? Are you a doctor? Have you been raped? Where the hell do you get off saying that 15 years of therapy wouldn't help? Where the hell do you get off trying to put any cap on it? What scientific study are you basing this on?

              Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

              by moviemeister76 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:36:56 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  Have you been raped? (0+ / 0-)
                •  Wow (0+ / 0-)

                  Yes. I fucking have. That's why I know you're full of shit.

                  Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

                  by moviemeister76 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 12:27:47 PM PST

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  So have I, so could be I know what I am talking (0+ / 0-)

                    about.  In fact, I am considering writing a book about rape.  Just because a person has suffered does not make them less of a person.  Just because someone is raped does not mean they cannot go on to lead a healthy and fulfilling life with great relationships and accomplishments.  Their life is not a ruin.  Having been raped does not make them any less a spouse, parent, sibling, child, worker, creator.  It does not make a person less spiritual.  Injuries heal and there is only a scar left to remind.
                    In fact, adversity can serve to make us stronger and more gloriously beautiful because wisdom is a result of suffering.

                    •  Yeah nice try (0+ / 0-)

                      This comment is miles away from your other bullshit comments. No one is saying that you cannot go on to lead a healthy life if you have been raped. Most men and women do. However, the time it takes each person to recover from that trauma is completely individualized. You should fucking know that, having been raped and all. We all recover in our own way, and  own time.

                      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

                      by moviemeister76 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 10:55:09 PM PST

                      [ Parent ]

        •  Criminal charges will not stop these types of (0+ / 0-)

          criminal actions.  Yes, the woman should be charged with statutory rape and be put on the Megan's list.
          The school should pay for capped therapy for the victims.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site