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  •  Abuse by the POLICE? (4+ / 0-)

    How did a story about a bigoted Subway manager turn into a gripe about abusive police?




    There's your story.

    •  Obviously I disagree (16+ / 0-)

      I stand by my assertion that the police did the wrong thing in this circumstance. The man and his wife had every right to walk into a public dining establishment and order food. The police telling them to leave reinforced the notion that Subway had the right to refuse them service.

      •  I think there's plenty of wrong to go around. (2+ / 0-)
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        Steveningen, swampyankee

        Is there anyone who acted right in this whole saga?  (Except the victims)

        Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

        by Smoh on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 02:48:13 PM PST

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      •  So what should the officer have done? (1+ / 0-)
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        Forced the employee to serve them?

        Don't let your knee-jerk hatred of police get in the way of reality here.

        •  Instructed the management they were in violation (4+ / 0-)

          of the federal civil rights law. Any cop worth a piss should know in general that refusing service based on "race, color, religion, or national origin" is a violation of a long standing federal law. Claiming "fear" for no sound reason is not an exception granted by that law.

          Perhaps Department of Justice needs to take this department into an agreement as it has other forces pretending or claiming ignorance of civil rights law.

          Basic elements of the settlement are similar to plans adopted in 2000 and 1999 by the police in Montgomery County, Maryland, and the New Jersey State Police in agreements with the U. S. Department of Justice to curb racial profiling there.
          (From ACLU of MD and Civil Rights Groups Decry Further Stalling on Landmark Racial Profiling Settlement)

          The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

          by pelagicray on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 06:24:21 PM PST

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        •  I don't have a hatred of the police (0+ / 0-)

          Never have. But the police were there. Instead of running the couple off, they could have reassured the staff that they would remain for the five minutes it took to make the sandwiches and made a damned point. That is what the police could have done.

          •  Even IF so, that is not police ABUSE. (0+ / 0-)

            Hyperbole is no one's friend.

            It's too bad you ended an otherwise good diary by taking a gratuitous and underserved shot at the police offer who responded.

            •  You are entitled to your opinion (0+ / 0-)

              and I still disagree with you. The responding officers handled the situation very poorly. They became a part of the bigoted actions that took place that day. I received 333 recs for the diary with far more people agreeing with my perception than yours.

      •  I have to point out that back in the day (3+ / 0-)
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        when blacks weren't allowed to eat at 'white' lunch counters the police didn't seem to have a problem enforcing those laws. As a child I saw police in the south on my nightly news sending dogs to attack peaceful civil rights marchers--they didn't have a problem doing that.
        So it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect the police officer to be a bit supportive of a man whose wife had been locked inside a restaurant while he had been locked out--because of his religion.
        No, he obviously wouldn't have held a gun to someone's head and ordered them to make a sandwich, as some here have snarkily observed.
        But he might have informed the manager that discrimination against someone because of their religion was against the law. And suggested that she call her manager.

        "The freedom which so many Americans have fought for and died for comes with responsibilities as well as rights. And among those are love and charity and duty and patriotism." Barack Obama 11/06/2012

        by zesty grapher on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 07:31:07 PM PST

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      •  Police is a plural noun (0+ / 0-)

        You are talking about a patrol officer who made a judgement call. Even if you are right and the officer should have forced the manager to serve the customer, that hardly rises to the level of police abuse.

        At the very worst we have an individual officer who made a sub-optimim decision. At the very worst.

        And furthermore, were I that couple, the last place I would eat at would be that particular restaurant. Did you ever consider that the couple wanted to go elsewhere?

        Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

    •  When the police told them to leave. (1+ / 0-)
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      Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

      by Smoh on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 02:48:57 PM PST

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