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  •  That really doesn't sound like a No from Durbin (9+ / 0-)

    on raising eligibilty age. He seems to be saying that exchanges should be set up first before tackling that.

    •  Exactly (4+ / 0-)

      He also states that there shouldn't be a gap between Social Security retirement age and Medicare retirement age - that is, when you retire (to collect social security), you should have Medicare.

      Guess what's already scheduled to raise from 65 to 67?  Social Security!  Guess what Durbin would be fine with in his example - raising Medicare eligibility to 67!

    •  Yes, but at least that staves off the idea (2+ / 0-)
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      until 2014 at the earliest.

      It's not the first time it's been implied that Obamacare will make Medicare obsolete, which is a notion that needs to be trampled upon and destroyed with extreme prejudice. However, for the moment, what I'm most worried about is the fiscal bluff.

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      by Code Monkey on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 05:38:49 PM PST

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    •  I've read elsewhere that there is (0+ / 0-)

      a consideration to raise eligibility startin in 10 years or even 20 years.  Not only is this really bad policy, I'm not sure how that would synch with Durbin's point:

      “To think that a person would retire at the age of 64 or 65 and not have Medicare coverage until 67 raises the obvious question: These people in their mid-60s, probably with a health history, will find it difficult to buy health insurance on the open market or afford whatever is available,” Durbin said. “I want to make sure there are no gaps in coverage for those who need it the most: retired Americans who have a health history and can’t find affordable health insurance. So … let us make certain that there are insurance exchanges, good competition, and affordable health care available for those seniors.”

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      by ChiTownDenny on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 05:54:51 PM PST

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    •  I agree. Brian Beutler's TPM article, (1+ / 0-)
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      article, quoted in the diary, quotes Durbin saying that social-service cuts "are something we should think long and hard about," or words to that effect, which is an ambiguous statement.  It's unclear whether he thinks we should do that because they're a good idea, or because they're a bad idea.  The rest of the quote suggests that he says that because he thinks they're a bad idea, but that's only sort of implied.  Personally, I'd feel a lot more comfortable if he'd state outright that dismissing them is a goddam no-brainer.  

      A poster in a diary downstream from this one says he or she saw Durbin on a talk show recently declaring that everything, absolutely everything, should be on the table.  This does not sound like a person who's "taking a hard line" on excluding them.  

      Beutler's piece also states that that great progressive Pete Conrad agrees with Durbin, then cites a quote from Conrad that shows pretty plainly that he thinks the cuts should remain on the table.  

      We all want these guys to fall in line on this issue.  And honestly, no one is more eager than I to think that they will.  But I don't want to live in a world of wishful thinking, and I don't share the diarist's optimism.  Neither the President nor most of the Congressional Democrats has a clean record on this issue, and frankly, I don't trust them.  

      •  saw durbin last night (0+ / 0-)

        on a harball segment and he specifically stated that a gap would be financially devastating for seniors who had health issues..........

        70% of those polled in this week's WAPO/ABC poll said "no" to raising the eligibility age on medicare.

        like everything else.....there are those in the bubble that live in their own world and no nothing of what the rest of America wants and the media is complicit.

        O us doing the right thing taking it to the people and it's up to all of us to ratchet up the pressure.

        there are lots of scare tactics and as long as reform does not impact earned benefits, nothing wrong with reform. people here "cuts" and I don't blame people for being skeptical. we just need to remain vigilant. when the only info that comes out is based on leaks, it's people playing games to reinforce a position.

        reminds me of the great Who song "we won't be fooled again"

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        by wewantthetruth on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 06:29:57 AM PST

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