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  •  Why (1+ / 0-)
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    does Va. vote dem. for president and then turn around  vote in teabaggers for state elections? Inquiring minds want to know. It makes no sense.

    •  Most likely if McAuliffe is the Dem nominee. (3+ / 0-)
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      NoMoJoe, Gordon20024, wombat

      McAuliffe would be a disaster, like Romney.  Men of no conviction.

      There is no hell on earth appropriate enough for those who would promote the killing of another person, in the name of a god.

      by HarryParatestis on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 02:33:46 PM PST

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    •  contrariness and turnout (3+ / 0-)
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      since 1977 the governership has gone to the party that just lost the pres election nationally, for whatever reason.

      Also, if you look at the turnout levels for the yearly elections between 2008 and 11 the ranking would probably be

      1.  2008 presidential
      2.  2010 midterm
      3.  2009 governatorial
      4.  2011 state legislature

      the new VA Obama dems have yet to make yearly voting as much of a priority as the headliner in the 4 year cycle.  Hopefully we can get more people out.

      •  I ran some numbers from official returns for (1+ / 0-)
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        someone here disputing there was a fade by Obama voters in off elections. They were probably unaware that Virginia isn't just off in terms of being mid-term but by being completely off the federal election cycle. This is an extract of that reply that had links to the official returns and more discussion:

        So let's review:
        2005    1025942    Kaine
        2006    1175606    Webb
        2008    1959532    Obama
        2009    818950    Deeds
        2010    911116    Democrats for Congress

        If my quick little spreadsheet is right that puts the total Democratic vote for the Governor that would determine majority status on ever election board in the state and the coattails for every statehouse race for reapportionment for the next decade at 359,279.2 votes under the average of all those years and 1,140,582 under Obama's vote the previous year.

        Nobody sat at home when--forget the nutter Cuccinelli as AG, forget the nut jobs in our part time legislature--reapportionment was at stake?

        Disgusting is hardly the word. Frightening that so few "citizens" realize that an election determining so much is important. In Virginia every local election board's majority is determined by the party holding the governorship. Thus, Fairfax County, pretty solidly blue, gets a majority TP/GOP election board with none other than Mr. Voter Fraud, Hans A. von Spakovsky, as a member. That is minor compared to the redistricting issue that put in legislative office those that would draw those new CD lines to help ensure the U.S. House stayed red.

        The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

        by pelagicray on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 08:30:56 AM PST

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    •  It's all about turnout - esp in NOVA. (2+ / 0-)
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      totallynext, pelagicray

      A key factor is that Virginia State Elections are held in non-Federal (odd-numbered) years.  This was designed by the old Harry Byrd machine to depress turnout.  It has worked.   The electorate in state elections is 25-33% smaller than in Federal elections, and skews more Republican.

      One reason for the skew, in my estimation, is that a large chunk of the reliable "federal" Democrats in Northern Virginia are oriented to national politics and don't really focus on what happens in Richmond.  

      This needs to change in 2013, for the reasons that many have set out. Cuccinelli is a real threat. He would make Scott Walker look like a moderate. Virginia, next year, is the next important battleground in the fight to push the wingnut agenda off the national stage forever.  

      Virginia Democratic activists will be working hard to defeat Cuccinelli and make that happen.  We will need all Democrats to come out, and we could really use the same kind of help from progressives nationwide that our colleagues in Wisconsin received.  Please don't forget us in 2013.

      •  And mcauliffe is the right candidate to do (0+ / 0-)

        just that, not a Perillio or a Webb.  Terry will bring in both Obama and Clinton to turn out the 2012 voters.  

        The number one surrogate at the OFA office openings in Virginia was Terry!

        All terry has to do is define e Cooch as the crazy guy who sued Obama for obamacare...that will get the presidential and Obama voters in his column early!

        Takin it to the Streets! time to GOTV

        by totallynext on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 07:50:43 PM PST

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