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  •  You honestly think (8+ / 0-)

    that Boehner would EVER go to his caucus and say they have to raise taxes? That was never going to be his response to ANYTHING the president put out there. I agree that he has put the speaker in the position where the least objectionable action is nonaction, ie. fiscal speed bump, but the vise is already tightening on Boehner. He's already damned whatever response he makes.

    •  I had some thought that the President would (4+ / 0-)
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      give Boehner the political cover he needed to force the House Republicans in line.  Rep. Cole showed some movement, some others are moving away from Norquist, Bill Kristol and some others on the right have indicated that Republicans shouldn't be "protecting millionaires and billionaires," the Tax Policy Center gave everybody some cover to start the tax hikes at $1 million instead of $250,000 (very little difference in revenue) so the Republicans could go back to their constituents and say that they protected "small business" but agreed to raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires" in exchange for spending cuts.  That's where I thought things were moving.  

    •  Will Boehner survive? (1+ / 0-)
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      Maybe this will finally be the end of the guy's term as Speaker.

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      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by ChuckInReno on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 12:47:02 PM PST

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      •  From your mouth (1+ / 0-)
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        to FSM's noodle!! Seriously, I can't imagine how he will hang onto the speakership with this much against him. I guess it matters how intransigent his caucus becomes. I have thought that the Ohio Dems have made a serious mistake letting him run unopposed the past few elections. Even if we lost, getting someone known might have given us a better chance to get him completely out of the house in 2014, especially if this debacle weakens him.
        On another note, anyone heard from Eric Cantor? Anyone? Bueller?

      •  You'd prefer Eric Cantor? (1+ / 0-)
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        Because if Boehner falls, that's who you'll get.  

        •  A lot of those guys (1+ / 0-)
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          seem to be in love with Paul Ryan. Maybe he'd be their next speaker?

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          Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

          by ChuckInReno on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 11:21:49 PM PST

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      •  Chuck - Boehner will be the Speaker in the 113th (1+ / 0-)
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        This issue is not in doubt. Having retained the majority the Republicans will not change who is Speaker. It's not how they work. Boehner will remain Speaker until the Dems take the House and when that happens he will step down from a leadership position and retire at some point in that next term.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 05:24:18 PM PST

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    •  Boehner's only hope (1+ / 0-)
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      is on the other side of the cliff. Then, his caucus can either vote to extend the lapsed tax cuts for the 98% or they can piss up a rope.
         Likewise, can the House vote against extending unemployment benefits? How about voting against raising the debt ceiling? It wil be hard for him to hold his whole caucus together on issues like that.

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