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  •  When we took over (4+ / 0-)

    from France in Viet Nam Ike was asked why there were American troops in the country he replied "Tin, tungsten manganese and rubber." He gets to share in the blame.

    "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

    by johnmorris on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:52:35 AM PST

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    •  True, Ike made the mistake of ... (0+ / 0-)

      listening to the wrong people.  But you can even go back to Truman on this.  Roosevelt was the last one to see the danger of supporting France after the war.

      In essence there were a lot of fingerprints on Vietnam, but the most were from LBJ and Nixon.

    •  He was a War bureaucrat... a brilliant one (0+ / 0-)

      which was what was needed to win the war in Western Europe and it was also what allowed him to understand the monster that the US had created in the Industrial military complex and to warn against what it would become...

      But he still had that technocrat and strategic raw materials focus and with the Cold War mentality he probably did just see the realpolitik first and not fully understand the imbalance in the approach and the continued creation of new problems with this mindset.

      Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

      by IreGyre on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:45:15 PM PST

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