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  •  Segregationist Dems are now Republicans (11+ / 0-)

    Republicans supported civil rights reforms through the mid-1960s, but liberal Democrats drove those reforms from the 1930s onward, and it was Texas Democrat Lyndon Johnson who as Senate Majority Leader drove passage of the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and as President drove passage of the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1968 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (after which LBJ predicted the Democrats would lose the South for a generation). Southern reaction against those bills drove the segregationist presidential campaign of George Wallace in 1968 and caused Richard Nixon to realize that Republicans could break the Democratic lock on the South by appealing to those white supremacist southerners, which they did. Since the early 1970s, Republicans have practically repudiated their historic role in advancing civil rights.

    •  you have to keep things simple (8+ / 0-)

      when talking to Republicans----I just tell them that if their party ever again ran a liberal like Lincoln for president, I'd GLADLY vote for him/her.  It never fails to short-circuit their synapses!

      •  If you think Lincoln was a liberal, (1+ / 0-)
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        wait'll you discover Eisenhower.

        Question:

        Did you know that Lincoln considered blacks to be inferior to whites? He considered them to be human, and thus entitled to human justice and compassion, but some lower form of human.

        That was a very common belief among abolitionists, and one reason why Frederick Douglass was such an important figure.  For many of those who met him or heard him speak, he was the first black man to shake their belief that blacks were some lower form of humanity.

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        by dinotrac on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 03:54:28 AM PST

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    •  Segregationist Dems are now dead. (2+ / 0-)
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      Unless somebody's resurrected Maddox and Wallace, Gore (the daddy, not the sone), et al.

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      by dinotrac on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 11:33:33 AM PST

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      •  And their descendants are now Republicans. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        •  Al Gore is the only descendant with whom I am (0+ / 0-)

          familiar.  I believe that he is a Democrat.

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          by dinotrac on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 01:26:59 PM PST

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          •  no one said segregationist *politicians* (1+ / 0-)
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            niemann

            Even though you'd like it to sound that way in order to make an inane anti-point.

            There were millions of segregationists who always voted against the party of Lincoln for Democrats. Their spawn are now among the millions who always vote against the party of Obama for Republicans.

            Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. -- K.Marx A.Lincoln

            by N in Seattle on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:23:57 PM PST

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            •  Your address betrays your supposed point. (1+ / 0-)
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              All the way up there in Seattle it's easy to make cartoon generalizations of people you know nothing about.

              Shouldn't you be focusing on racists in Idaho?
              That would seem much closer to home.

              I will kindly let you pretend that Seattle is all sweetness and light.

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              by dinotrac on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:43:37 PM PST

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      •  My understanding is that Gore Sr. (0+ / 0-)

        was a close ally of Roosevelt's who felt that racism was tool used to keep the South poor, and hoped that government programs like the TVA woul employ black and white, and elevate both.

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