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  •  They don't want to propose entitlement cuts (10+ / 0-)

    Because they know how unpopular they will be, and that Democrats will whack them for even proposing it. Neither party wants to be the first to propose something that most people don't want, even if they feel it's necessary.

    •  They want the Dems to be the proposers... (13+ / 0-)

      so they won't have to take responsibility for unpopular cuts.

      "We weren't the ones who cut Medicare! The Democrats, in trying to appease us, did!"

      My guess is that, like Romney during his campaign, they won't ever offer specifics.

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

      by richardak on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 01:37:37 PM PST

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    •  Which falls in line with what Ezra Klein said... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...yesterday.  They won't make the unpopular proposals; so they must manipulate Obama and the Dems into making those proposals for them.  They will refuse to accept any other proposal until they hear something that they will accept.

      Obama spent much of the debt ceiling debate trying to anticipate what they would accept and making offers that included some of those ideas.  That is what Ezra characterized as "negotiating with himself".

      Not this time.  What he proposed this week was an offer not for the GOP, but for the people!  To hell with what the GOP wanted; their first duty is with the people!

      If they refuse to accept, no problem!  We go over the so-called cliff after the deadline, and taxes for the super-rich go up, anyway!  It'll be an offer the GOP can't refuse.

      Obama's Godfather chess game has Boner Boehner shaking like a leaf.  It's a no-win situation for the super-rich, and he knows it.  If he imposes the threat of shutting down the government in a desperate attempt to get the Dems to cave, the Dems will take their ball and go home, and let the deadline pass.

      Either way, it looks as if the Tan Man will find himself forfeiting the gavel.  The deadline passes without a deal, the GOP loses.  A deal is made, it will most definitely be on the Dems' terms (as defined in the Senate and the White House), or else there is no deal, and the GOP still loses.

      In any case, this could certainly bring to an end the worst speakership in the worst House in U.S. history.  I would imagine he might be tempted to resign from the House if he loses the gavel.  How many Speakers have lost the gavel during their tenure while their party stayed in power, and how many of them (besides Gingrich) have resigned after losing the gavel or having been informed (as Newt was) that they might be forced to give it up?

      [Notice again that I mentioned House, not Congress, because Harry Reid is doing his job in the Senate, and quite well as of late; while the House has become an insane asylum under the Tan Man's "leadership".  They need to do separate polls on the House and Senate, and quite probably, each party within those chambers.]

      •  I guess Tan-Man has been crying "proactively." (0+ / 0-)
        •  Because he knows that, if he loses the gavel,... (0+ / 0-)

          ...which they will probably give to Eric Cantor, he will not be given any leadership position in the House; certainly not Majority Leader, which Cantor holds right now.

          He will be just another member of the majority, and nothing more.  It will be as if he had just been humiliated, if not disgraced within his own party.  Such a demotion may be tempting enough for him to simply pack up, go home and resign his House seat.

          Newt Gingrich faced ethics inquiries so egregious that, following the loss of 5 seats in 1998 (when he predicted a gain of another 20 to 30), the GOP was ready to fire him as Speaker.  He resigned in humiliation.

          No scandal this time, although the descent of the GOP into madness is a scandal itself; but will the humiliation of being outmaneuvered by Obama and the Dems force Boehner to give up the gavel and perhaps tempt him to leave Congress?

          I think he will definitely pay the price for having allowed the House to devolve into a sanitarium in an attempt to send Obama packing, only to end up with the booby prize in having miserably failed in that attempt, lost 8 House seats and 2 in the Senate.

          Does it really matter if the Tan Man still has the gavel or not?  Probably not, because the 113th House is likely to be as devoted to madness (if not much worse) as was the 112th House.  The 113th Senate, on the other hand, will be a much better place.

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