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  •  I hope it's real. I've been telling my ultra-lefty (3+ / 0-)
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    brother that we were going to see a new and invigorated Obama in the second term. I purposely didn't say much, if anything, about that on any blogs the baggers might read. I didn't want to alarm and activate them in any way.

    Here's my theory: Obama takes office January 2009 and the economic situation is so dire he realizes it can't be fixed in one term. Thus it is absolutely imperative he get another term. (I do believe he truly wants to change the trajectory of the country.) So, he ruffles feathers as little as possible to lull baggers into a security that he won't "do too much damage" so he can be the president we all anticipated in his second term. Time will tell, but I think he's off to a pretty good start. I'm crossing my fingers he will keep the pressure on. At this point he has nothing to lose as he can't serve another term. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    The world is not interested in the storms you encountered, but did you bring in the ship.

    by Hanging Up My Tusks on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 01:37:37 PM PST

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    •  There's a flaw in your theory (2+ / 0-)

      If Obama truly had that much foresight and political acumen, he would not have arranged to lose control of the House and thirty or so state governments to right-wing crazoids.

      Here's my theory: Obama screwed up badly in the first two-thirds of his first term, but not bad enough to cost him a second term in an election against an incompetent Republican national party.

      I agree: Time will tell, and he's off to a good start in his second chance.

      To paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut: Pure joy is waking up one morning to realize that your high school class will NOT be running the country for the next four years.

      by ebrann on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 02:18:15 PM PST

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      •  There's a flaw in your theory (4+ / 0-)
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        Obama is one of the most legislatively successful Presidents of the modern era.  The notion that he "screwed up badly" is completely inaccurate.

        I think that what Obama was doing is simple: he was trying to attract Republicans at the margins to squeeze as much stimulus as he could out of Washington.  I don't agree that Obama was trying to lull people into thinking he was dumb as was claimed in the comment you replied to.  The opposition was already so racist that he didn't need to do any additional work to make them believe that.  I think that his strategy was to win Republicans at the margins for any stimulus he could get, and to make Republicans run from their own ideas.

        It worked.

        He was re-elected in an Electoral College landslide.

        •  I certainly didn't mean to imply that (0+ / 0-)
          Obama was trying to lull people into thinking he was dumb.
          Lulling them into thinking he was relatively innocuous is a different strategy. I think Michelle hit the nail on the head when she said, in the 2008 campaign, that he was a tough veteran of Chicago politics. I think Obama prefers to reach consensus but is willing to be an effective street fighter if forced to do so.

          The world is not interested in the storms you encountered, but did you bring in the ship.

          by Hanging Up My Tusks on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:03:48 PM PST

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