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  •  The administration IS willing to talk. It must be. (3+ / 0-)
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    smokey545, OooSillyMe, satrap

    But it will bargain on its own terms, just as the GOP and its water-carriers and hand-maidens and task masters want to bargain. And have, in the past.

    But this time, the cards are different. The public heard the arguments and voted, and the President will be using the Democrats' election victories and his bully pulpit to great advantage.

    The Republicans will present a package or two, to try to undercut Obama's crisp, clear message ... but they will fail.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:31:47 PM PST

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    •  And by the way, these guys do influence the GOP. (2+ / 0-)
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      The lobbyists and the lever pullers go back to their respective associations and businesses and translate Washington for the executives. More important, they have ready access to Senators and Congressmen - after all, that is their stock in trade - and they know how to use it. Will they lobby for Obama, or even for sanity? No ... but they do know what they've heard "from the horses's mouth" and they know when they hear the ring of political truth.

      It makes great sense, politically, for President Obama and his team to show his resolve to "these folks" - to bottom line the issues for them and to suggest some ways open to the parties through the Republican-created morass of the Fiscal Whatever.

      Welcome to realpolitik.

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 06:41:45 AM PST

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      •  Obama's crew were DELIVERING a message. (0+ / 0-)

        Geeze, some people read everything backwards.

        And where did anyone say they were going to be fighting this on or through Wall Street.

        “You really think we aren’t going to have any influence?” asked Mr. Josten, the group’s lobbyist.

        “If that’s the case, why would the White House want to meet with us?” he said. “My suspicion is that they know we’re going to have some influence on this. I don’t think there’s any member of Congress out there that doubts that.”

        That's the sound of someone trying to convince others and himself that he/they really really matter.

        I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

        by samddobermann on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 01:11:52 AM PST

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        •  Yup. Whether we like it or not, they do. (0+ / 0-)

          The CC's Josten needs - like all Washington lobbyists and DC representatives of others - to believe that he and his client are vital parts of the way political things are done. That is, at heart, all they do. What they are selling to their employers is that they are listened to and "have some influence on this." Otherwise, what's their value?

          Their communications are in both directions. As Washington reps, they advocate - meaning everything from advancing positions to exchanging gossip and asking for favors as well as doing them, being important - and they tell their own constituents "what Washington thinks."  

          They chatter up Senators and Congressmen and their staffs and other Washington pols 24/7/365 1/4. The stock in trade of the Jostens of the world is who they know and meet with, what they say and hear and even, sometimes, what they themselves think.

          Josten's right. He and the others who met at the White House have influence. That they were called to meet with the President gives them - for a day or two - even more influence.

          2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

          by TRPChicago on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 05:24:22 AM PST

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