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  •  Valid point (0+ / 0-)

    It would then be up to the courts to decide whether such a disclosure law had sufficient chilling effects (undue burdens) on free speech.  It's a precarious balance, to be sure.

    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

    by winsock on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 10:58:53 AM PST

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    •  You concede to dinotrac's RW arguments too easily. (1+ / 0-)
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      The notion that CU doesn't matter because we managed to win anyway is an absurd, fallacious argument. There are numerous factors that helped us win races that could have gone the other way, and if they had, the massive massive CU influx from corporations, outspending the Dems on SuperPAC money 10-1, would have made a huge difference.

      Elsewhere, dinotrac is claiming that Dixiecrat racism is a Democratic legacy and that most racism consists of accusations from Democrats. Consider the source.

      •  Concede? (0+ / 0-)

        I did not concede or agree that CU doesn't matter.  I was only responding to dinotrac's specific argument against the DISCLOSE act.  And in this case, I don't regard the objection as particularly RW -- it's much the same argument the ACLU has made.  But while worth consideration, IMO it's an insufficient argument.

        I agree that CU matters, especially downticket.  It would be a grave mistake to dismiss the effects of CU simply because the Dems happened to do well overall in a single election cycle.

        Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

        by winsock on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:55:31 PM PST

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        •  It's RW as a whole. (1+ / 0-)
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          To support his position that CU is no big deal, dinotrac seized upon a comment about "Proposition 8 supporters threatening contributors to the gay rights side" ... as if that was comparable to disclosure of massive funding by large organizations ... like the LDS.

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