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  •  utter bullshit (0+ / 0-)

    it's the fault of the terrorists who hide out with their own children knowing that they are putting them in harms way, but they do it, because they want their kids to die by American hands so they cry about how evil America is and get public support to knock down a couple more skyscrapers in the US

    and Obama doesn't support torture and Manning is NOT being tortured

    and i am done with this absurd diary

    •  You've said the first thing I agree with (14+ / 0-)
      and i am done with this
      You cannot legitimately defend the indefensible so you employ personally attacks, make false analogies and then claim some moral superiority and faux indignation to hide your failure to address these issues we all must take responsibility for.

      I chose not to pretend or put my head in the sand making blatantly false statements such as these:

      Obama doesn't support torture and Manning is NOT being tortured
      He most certainly is. You don't get to redefine what torture is.
      it's the fault of the terrorists who hide out with their own children knowing that they are putting them in harms way,
      You've ignored the whole point here.  We once had a system of justice that demanded a person be apprehended, brought up on charges, tried and IF convicted, sentenced.

      That IS not happening today.  With a push of a button, a person is sentenced to death without facts, without trial, without jury AND without recourse.

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 10:11:52 PM PST

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    •  you don't mean terrorists. you mean people... (4+ / 0-)
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      CT Hank, BradyB, aliasalias, gerrilea

      who look, from a mile in the sky, like they might be militants.

      "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

      by 2020adam on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:59:33 AM PST

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    •  I see that you are very frightened (2+ / 0-)
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      You are afraid of the terrorists so you want to allow the Leader father figure to employ any means to kill that which so terrifies you. So you wash your hands of the knowledge of drones hovering over other people's countries and sending hellfire missiles on possibly bad intelligence to blow up "militants" (however that term is described today) and civilians alike.

      You don't have enough empathy with the people on the receiving end of those missiles to see that they, too, might want to lash out at the violent forces threatening them (and in a much more immediate way than you are ever likely to be threatened). And so you contribute to the circle of violence. In a way, you are a terrorist of yourself.

    •  Do you have any proof of that? (0+ / 0-)

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