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    i can't agree with this even a little bit. See here:

    http://www.brookings.edu/...

    Fact is, military pay is growing faster and higher than comparable civilian pay, literally not even including the more or less total lack of living expenses.  The health care is more or less free (which is appropriate for active-duty) for life (more questionable), including for dependents (way overkill).

    20 years is a very short career, the shortest of any i can think of in the known world, and then you get a pension for life. It's a tough job, but it's not the world's only tough job. And the toughness of it varies. between 1975 and 2001...

    last, but not least, our Armed Forces are insanely top-heavy, and the compensation for high officers is lavish enough to be mildly scandalous. I'm sorry, nobody needs a 300K/year pension for 60 years on a government dime. Nobody.

    At the very least, we could tier the system better so that this very, very generous system is reserved for those who have actual combat duty. Laugh off weapons programs and O&M, but if these costs rise constantly, budget for those fall every year in a flat budget. There's a relationship between that money and keeping soldiers safe. There's a case for keeping them safe with procurement on the battlefield, rather than paying for 100% of their healthcare for life, even after they seek other employment.

    Note that I'm for a shrinking defense budget. If you think you can shrink the defense budget drastically and take nothing out of this item, you're more radical than you think. Unless you want a procurement budget of zero. If so, come out for it.

    •  I agree for the officer ranks... (2+ / 0-)
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      Hoya90, LilithGardener

      ...and people should actually look at whogets military pensions and how muchthey get before opposing changes on a go forward basis. I hope someone has the guts to cut DoD deep and wide. Sure, salaries and benefits should come last, no reneging on past agreements, but I see senior level Marines retiring after 20 years with a 6 figure  pension only to do the same work as a private contractor for even more money.  

      I prefer a single equitable national social insurance (health and pension) for all Americans.

      Let all Bush tax cuts expire and , bring on the Sequestration cuts to defense.

      by kck on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 04:41:35 PM PST

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