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  •  Carter started a war in Afghanistan which (3+ / 0-)

    has raged for over thirty years and taken over 1.5 million lives, overwhelmingly civilians.

    He has yet to voice a peep of apology for it.

    He didn't just appoint Brzezinski, he was that monsters hand puppet.

    "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

    by JesseCW on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 03:42:12 PM PST

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    •  Those of us who admire Carter (4+ / 0-)

      do so largely because of his post-Presidential career, or because our memories are selective.

      Let's not forget that enough Democrats were appalled by his performance that Ted Kennedy was able to launch a highly damaging primary campaign against him.

      Which isn't to say Carter wouldn't have won reelection if it weren't for Reagan's little deal with the Iranians, and the siphoning off of some votes by John Anderson.

    •  All political idols have feet of clay, don't they? (1+ / 0-)
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      Those are also good points. As with President Obama, in many areas it was a question of "yeah, but the other guys were even worse."

      From the Wikipedia article on Zbigniew Brzezinski:

      In his 1970 piece Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, Brzezinski argued that a coordinated policy among developed nations was necessary in order to counter global instability erupting from increasing economic inequality. Out of this thesis, Brzezinski co-founded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, serving as director from 1973 to 1976. The Trilateral Commission is a group of prominent political and business leaders and academics primarily from the United States, Western Europe and Japan. Its purpose was to strengthen relations among the three most industrially advanced regions of the capitalist world. Brzezinski selected Georgia governor Jimmy Carter as a member.

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      Jimmy Carter announced his candidacy for the 1976 presidential campaign to a skeptical media and proclaimed himself an "eager student" of Brzezinski.[citation needed] Brzezinski became Carter's principal foreign policy advisor by late 1975. He became an outspoken critic of the Nixon-Kissinger over-reliance on détente, a situation preferred by the Soviet Union, favoring the Helsinki process instead, which focused on human rights, international law and peaceful engagement in Eastern Europe. Brzezinski has been considered to be the Democrats' response to Republican Henry Kissinger.[11] Carter engaged Ford in foreign policy debates by contrasting the Trilateral vision with Ford's détente.[12]

      "The Democrats' response to Republican Henry Kissinger." Just think about that for a moment. Is that as repulsive as it sounds, or is it just me?

      As for Afghanistan, folks my age may recall that it was once a favored destination of hippie backpackers: a sleepy, timeless backwater, a magic kingdom where one could live on little money and hashish was legal.

      Then the monarchy was overthrown and a pro-Soviet puppet government set up in its place. Socialism! Secular ideology! Equality of women! The U.S. couldn't have that! "This is Langley, Virginia calling. Get me a database of Islamic fundamentalists, stat!"

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

      by lotlizard on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 04:15:30 PM PST

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      •  Today, most Democrats think the Trilateral (1+ / 0-)
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        Commission is a fantasy of the conspiracy theorists, no more real than the Illuminati.

        "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

        by JesseCW on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 04:37:57 PM PST

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