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  •  I am fine with opinion (2+ / 0-)

    I welcome it.

    I feel my tone was civil. I never called anyone an "asshole" or a "liar" or a "troll," for example.

    "Counsel woven into the fabric of real life is wisdom" - Walter Benjamin

    by mahakali overdrive on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 05:05:59 PM PST

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    •  Laughing here... (1+ / 0-)
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      Because I have been called all of those things by people you tend to agree with. I don't ever recall you objecting when it was happening to others, when you weren't in agreement with them.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 05:20:58 PM PST

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      •  I don't really care about groups (3+ / 0-)

        I have noticed you talk a lot about friends, groups, packs, and cadres on this site. You know, I literally don't much think like that. I view the whole site as people I sometimes agree with on one issue, and I might disagree with the same people on another issue. I also might like a poster who I never agree with for some reason or another.

        So your comment, it doesn't really apply to me because I'm only able to speak for myself. What others do is what they do. I am not concerned with, or able to, control them, nor would I want to be -- ugh.

        I keep in touch, IRL, with a few Kossacks and have a strong bond with these. Few are steady commenters here right now, unfortunately.

        So the world isn't "us" and "them" in my mind.

        "Counsel woven into the fabric of real life is wisdom" - Walter Benjamin

        by mahakali overdrive on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 05:24:49 PM PST

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        •  Some people have pattern recognition abilities (0+ / 0-)

          that others lack. I can't help but see the pattern of individuals acting as a group. It isn't something I try to see, but rather is something I can't help seeing. If you can't see it, don't presume it isn't a factor or that your perception is so reliable that you decide another's isn't.

          Not that this is rocket science. It's pretty obvious that the same individuals show up time after time hide rating and attacking.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 05:48:39 PM PST

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        •  And when a group (1+ / 0-)
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          shows a willingness to hide rate and attack, it tends to create momentum with unsuspecting readers. People may rush in and jump on the bandwagon, because people often go with the crowd. This is why it is something that must be pointed out when it is seen. People mistakenly think a large number of people acting together indicates authority, or correctness in approach by sheer numbers. It can become a destructive element.

          I loath groupthink.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 06:46:59 PM PST

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