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  •  phoenix (5+ / 0-)

    is just a hellhole. A piece of pot-boiling Venus, grafted onto the planet, by rude mistake.

    NYC is where they would damn the entire planet.

    But they won't.

    The littlest bird, won't let them.

    •  People like us are too much hurt (7+ / 0-) the genocide of the people and the rape of the land. But that puts us out of step. Nothing can be said that is not inappropriate. The conscious ones, doomed to carry the burden, should do so silently.

      A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

      by Pluto on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:28:36 AM PST

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      •  hurt (7+ / 0-)

        is how, here, we evolve.

        We are right in step. Even in the white-people schools, they teach that Fitzgerald grasped what it is to be America:

        Most of the big shore places were closed now and there were hardly any lights except the shadowy, moving glow of a ferryboat across the Sound. And as the moon rose higher the inessential houses began to melt away. Until gradually I became aware of the old island here that flowered once for Dutch sailors’ eyes—a fresh, green breast of the new world. Its vanished trees, the trees that had made way for Gatsby’s house, had once pandered in whispers to the last and greatest of all human dreams; for a transitory enchanted moment man must have held his breath in the presence of this continent, compelled into an aesthetic contemplation he neither understood nor desired, face to face for the last time in history with something commensurate to his capacity for wonder.

        And as I sat there, brooding on the old unknown world, I thought of Gatsby's wonder when he first picked out the green light at the end of Daisy’s dock. He had come a long way to this blue lawn and his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it. He did not know that it was already behind him, somewhere back in that vast obscurity beyond the city, where the dark fields of the republic rolled on under the night.

        Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgiastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter—tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther . . . . And one fine morning—

        So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

        Malick attached the coda:
        At the close of the film, the inconstant adventurer John Smith encounters the Indian woman he used, abused, lied to, and abandoned, after she had merely provided him with everything he might ever want or need.

        He had gone off in search of more land, more plunder, more conquest, more glory—the paradise of "the Indies."

        Now he has returned to chat her up.

        Malick in his film never names this woman: she is meant to represent America.

        She is now tamed and tortured, spirit-stifled, English-corseted, and she is dying.

        She has not a word to say to her one-time, would-be beau, until Smith asks:

        "Did I make a mistake in coming here?"

        To which she witheringly replies: "Did you find your Indies, John?"

        "I may," he admits, "have sailed past them."

        Absolutely goddam right.

        All the Americans will see this, someday. And then row their boats back home.

        We're just a little early. That's all.

      •  Your comment in sad and true (3+ / 0-)
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        wader, tardis10, Pluto

        so I recc'd it.

        But maybe it's not completely true. Maybe the human race is not doomed by what an Andes Mountain tribe calls "little brother" and and what blueness calls "white people."


        Reaganomics noun pl: belief that unregulated capitalism can produce unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources and we the people can increase revenue by decreasing revenue.

        by FrY10cK on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 05:02:18 AM PST

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      •  plenty can be said that is not innappropriate (6+ / 0-)

        don't wish ill on actively suffering people of any hue would be a good rule. Discuss grievances in other places/times might work.

        yup, Im one of the occupiers, being light skinned European decent. None of my grandparents were born in the US...just were poor peasants in the old country. But they did come to this country after the genocide of the native people so I suppose they were complicit in that way even though they probably knew nothing of the history, not being educated.

        I am aware of my white privledge as I walk around with that as well, so am complicit if only by birth.

        I think many if not most of white people in NYC are recent decedants of immigrants as well. So they are as culpable as I am.

        For a white person, I am more aware than some (people I know) about what we did to the Native people here. I don't celebrate Columbus Day and didn't celebrate Thanksgiing. But right now people are sick and cold and hungry...people right now in NYC. I don't think it's right to kick them.

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