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  •  The point of Occupy was not to confront power (3+ / 0-)
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    jds1978, Malvern, kalmoth

    but to exercise power.  The fact that they never understood that is what ultimately made them powerless, and why today they are irrelevant.  They could not mentally make the shift from being complainant outsiders to being leaders with a plan.

    In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

    by Troubadour on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:27:11 AM PST

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    •  I don't want to advocate violence (1+ / 0-)
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      But Occupy was never going to exercise power properly without the threat of violence.

      That doesn't mean that Occupy had to be a violent group, but it does mean that Occupy at least had to threaten to require much more intense and much more visible political violence to dislodge them than what actually occurred.

      For Occupy to exercise power properly, I think there had to be the potential for a feeling in the air that things could get out of control and a riot might occur if concerns were not addressed.  

      •  Nonsense. (2+ / 0-)
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        jds1978, Malvern

        Authority is power, and Occupy refused to give itself any because it was against hierarchy because it was tainted with anarchist fetishes.  It didn't want authority, and did nothing to cultivate any.  Authority was the enemy, from the way they viewed things, and people outside the movement came to see them accordingly - as folks complaining, not folks showing a new direction.

        In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

        by Troubadour on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:47:32 AM PST

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