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  •  The thing I looked at it and... (4+ / 0-)
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    Roadbed Guy, Ahianne, WisJohn, grrr

    These type of amendments will only really win in Purple states. In "single party" states the majority party can organize to kill. You need a relatively balanced state where one party is completely unfairly out of power.

    Secondly if it went to it's conclusion in all states Dems would actually gain Texas and New York are actually gerrymander in the GOPs favor. A neutral map would help the Dems. Also look at Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, etc. Of the 10 biggest states only Illinois is gerrymandered to help us.

    If you add up our losses (Massachusetts, Maryland, Illinois) to our gains it's not even close. Republicans would gain at most 2-3 seats in New England (1 or 2 in Mass, 1 or 2 in Connecticut, at the most) Repubs would gain one more in Maryland, and 2 more in Illinois. Texas alone would give us 5 and New York 3, Michigan 2, Penn 3-4, Ohio 2-3, etc. Go ahead and look. The risk is very low.

    Also since the GOP base is much more rabid, they would have a harder time winning swing districts. Look at Arizona a light red state, but there GOP candidates can't win in neutral congressional district so Dems have a majority of their seats. If this forces GOP moderation that wouldn't be such a bad thing either.

    -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

    by dopper0189 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 05:57:11 AM PST

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    •  My point was that this was ONLY or MOSTLY (1+ / 0-)
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      just being pursued in blue (CA) or purple (FL)  states.

      Thus the comment

       

      Secondly if it went to it's conclusion
      would leave deep red states like TX and UT unscathed . ..  (heck Utah might be considered small potatoes, but there's totally one blue district lurking in there if the lines are drawn correctly . . .)
      •  Remember in Texas (0+ / 0-)

        The Republicans on the State Level lost their SuperMajority in the House (of the State of Texas obviously).

        Before that, the Republicans were ramming through whatever they wanted to.... That, for now, at least has a chamber to slow them down and maybe think of the people of Texas and not just the profits to be made here.

        -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

        by MarciaJ720 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 01:10:20 PM PST

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    •  Remember, Gov. Cuomo reneged on his promise (2+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, grrr

      to have an independent redistricting.

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 09:31:04 AM PST

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