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  •  So basically, since there's no magic bullet, go (3+ / 0-)
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    bear83, basquebob, ivote2004

    for broke on polluting the world to oblivion??

    •  Magic bullet=Polywell fusion (2+ / 0-)
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      PatriciaVa, basquebob

      No waste, direct conversion to electricity. If Polywell works.

      Just in case we should build out renewable to the max.

      @ 390, approaching 400... sigh.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:32:58 PM PST

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      •  It doesn't exist, though, right? (1+ / 0-)
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        Is it even feasible?  Polywell is a company trying to make one?

        Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

        by yet another liberal on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:37:22 PM PST

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        •  EMC2 (1+ / 0-)
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          is the company, out of Santa Fe.

          The Navy funds Polywell research, they like it because it could replace Fission nukes in subs and Carriers. We would like it because it can make enough electricity to give us a chance of saving the human race, so we can actually become a space faring race. Replacing fission nukes, coal plant, natural gas plants. And generating enough electricity to run C02 scrubbing plants. It is theoretically possible to return to 350 ppm Co2.

          Currently a Polywell fusion reactor is about the size of a houshold oven. Its called WB-8,, or whiffle ball-8, the eighth reactor in a series. A net power reactor (1000mw) might be 15 ft across, in a  35 ft square room.

          In a year or 2 WB-8 might be ready to use the best fusion fuel, the proton-Boron11 or P-B11. P-B11 fusion release alphas, which can be directly converted to DC electricity. No boiling water/steam/turbine like in fission nukes.

          Only low levels of radioactivity and no waste. Shut the reactor down and walk into it a month later.

          Best case scenario we're 5 years from a working prototype, if it works....

          Amongst Fusion aficionados the P-B11 fuel is the most desirable fuel, 2 other companies are researching to see if they can make it work.

          And the cool thing, if youre a Star Tek Fan, is Polywell was invented by DR Robert Bussard. This part of the original TV show Enterprise is called the Bussard Collector:


          Bussard wrote a paper decades ago about using interstellar hydrogen to fuel a spaceship (Bussards Ram Scoop). Gene Rodenberry had heard about Bussards Ramscoop idea and incorporated it into his sci fi.


          But dont count on Polywell, we need to build out renewables like crazy.

          FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

          by Roger Fox on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:05:02 PM PST

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    •  No magic bullet. (3+ / 0-)
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      The US tells China that (i) China already emits more CO2 than the US, and (ii) US per capita emissions are down 5% since 1990.

      China tells the US that the US is responsible for, cumulatively, 3x the CO2 emissions of China.

      The US tells China that over the last decade, the median wage in China has more than doubled, while it's stagnated in the US.  Therefore, it would be irresponsible to increase energy costs in the US.

      And it can go on and on.

      Will people have to relocate?

      People have already relocated.  Ten thousand years ago, many in the Americas had a great ocean view from their settlements on the land bridge connecting Yucatan to Cuba.

      Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

      by PatriciaVa on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:34:18 PM PST

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