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  •  this isn't news to anyone (2+ / 0-)
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    belle1, Cassandra Waites

    and it isn't just individual tax payers that suffer, it is also other businesses that have to make up the difference.

    Look at any large business investment in a new plant in this country, it is likely they received some sort of tax incentive and possibly infrastructure improvement in order to create jobs in that location. And companies blackmailing by threatening to pick up and take their jobs to a different city and state if they don't get what they want is a daily occurrence - see any local newspaper.

    •  The problem is that most local newspapers... (3+ / 0-)

      ...don't point out the problems when the companies are asking for and municipalities are granting these deals. The local newspapers rarely check out the bigger companies' record for keeping their promises to other communities. They don't report until the companies pull out.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 07:37:54 AM PST

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      •  sure, the details may not be there (0+ / 0-)

        my point is simply that these are not infrequent events.

        However, whether 'promises' are kept is not the issue and I believe that is a narrow appreciation of this problem. There is a clear unfairness to select companies getting special treatment - with everyone else having to make up the difference while some other municipality may also lose out in the process - regardless of whether 'promises' are kept. The only winners in this are the businesses that exert leverage to get what they want. Collectively, the rest of us lose.

        •  I agree that broken promises aren't the only... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...problem, which I think I made clear in my diary. This is a matter essentially of communities signing over a chunk of their revenue (obtained from existing taxpayers, both individual and business) to an outside company (or to one that says it may have to leave if it doesn't get some relief).

          I also agree that these aren't infrequent events, which is one of the Times's main points in this series. But I will wager that not more than 5% of Americans know this goes on and, except in the smaller communities, have little to no idea which companies have received incentives.

          I covered two big issues of this sort for alternative publications in the '80s (other traditional local papers didn't cover them until a long time later).

          In Boulder, Colorado, the computer company DEC got the city council to approve industrial development bonds and supply infrastructure upgrades, and got the school board to approve the construction of a new elementary school. All for a new branch facility DEC would bring to the city. The company promised a few hundred jobs and, of course, made the usual noise about improving the tax base. A few years later, DEC was bought by Compaq and the Boulder facility was closed entirely, leaving the local taxpayers on the hook.

          Exxon wrote in a notorious "White Paper" in 1980 that stated, by 2010, there would be 1.5 million in western Colorado pumping out 8 million barrels of oil shale a day. Cities like Parachute and Rifle (and counties) prepared by passing bonds to extend their sewer and water, build new schools, approved housing developments, etc. In 1982, Exxon pulled out of its oil shale operation. Eventually, the state bailed the local governments out to avoid their bankruptcy.

          Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

          by Meteor Blades on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 11:13:19 AM PST

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      •  Good Jobs First (0+ / 0-)

        You need to cite them. They have been doing great work since 1998, and Story's database cites their much bigger one on every page.

        And I've written two books on this issue.

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