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  •  Then do arithmetic if you want proof. (1+ / 0-)
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    The percentage of in-place solar/wind/tide/geothermal etc., the implementation of various storage methods, is low now. You don't really think they'll stay at today's rate forever?

    And look at the nuke plants going up now. Delay delay delay delay. Rising costs, rising costs, rising costs. Meanwhile those in place go down frequently, and more and more cracks, leaks, and corrosion gets found every month. Hell, it's not even possible to check the degree of containment vessel degradation with any certainty. What? Trust the Nuclear Safety Fairy?

    If you started the extra 1200 or so plants you need tomorrow at 9 am, it'll be on the order of 12-15 years before you have most of them... if you have them. Because who is going to lay out the tens of trillions you need to build them. Even the retired GE Honcho said they are not economically competitive anymore.

    This is just arithmetic. You'll might as well try to prove that 2+2 equals opera-singing koala bears if you're going to go on pretending nuclear is a viable path.

    Got anything to say about the on-going Fukushima and Chernobyl disasters, btw? (Besides that the odds against major nuclear accidents are strong.)

    The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

    by Jim P on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 03:27:22 PM PST

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    •  You're probably right at this point. (0+ / 0-)

      It was in the 80's and 90's that we recognized that a massive increase of nuclear power was needed to avoid the C02 levels and climate change we see today.  The effort was needed 20-30 years ago.  But it was decided that coal and cliamte change were better options than that "nasty dirty" nuclear power.  So are you happy with where the status quo took us?

      Chernobyl was a terrible reactor design that never should have been built, and wasn't built in the US.  Blame communism for that if you like.

      Fukushima was also an old reactor design that should have been retired and replaced with a better one.  The spent fuel should have been recycled.  At a minimum, it should have been moved to safe storage.

      But those like you got everything they wanted from nuclear power.  Like conservatives who design government to fail and oppose all solutions, so the anti-nuclear people opposed all progress and innovation.  Opposed all waste storage.

      And so we got Fukushima.  The logical result of denying that progress is possible and that the system is doomed to fail.  So, surprise, in 2011 a 1950s design failed and spent fuel that was never moved is now a major mess.

      Congratulations, you win.  Enjoy the climate change.

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