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  •  Yet by calling interpretation an art (0+ / 0-)

    you make it easy to infer that the meaning you assert is your own creation.

    into the blue again, after the money's gone

    by Prof Haley on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 10:42:15 AM PST

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    •  can you clarify? there are multiple meanings (1+ / 0-)
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      to a cultural text. the fun comes in arbitrating those claims.

      •  I thought that was clear enough (0+ / 0-)

        The meaning installed by the writer is primary. The meaning asserted by anyone else is secondary, because the reader is not the author and because readers disagree, as this comment trail makes clear.

        into the blue again, after the money's gone

        by Prof Haley on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 11:06:32 AM PST

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        •  authors may not be mindful of their own intent (1+ / 0-)
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          or its reception or the meaning that a given piece of work will take when it is circulated among a public. there are many many examples of such happenings where a song, movie, film, poetry, etc. was meant as X by the author and became understood to mean Y by the public.

          authors and creators are part of the collective consciousness of a society. as such, they reproduce its norms intentionally and unintentionally. as i said i am not a modernist--although i appreciate its foundations. i am more a populist who tends to read against Power by using a critical framework.

          If you are curious about this approach check out some of Henry Giroux's early stuff, or even more foundation work by Fiske and others. I think I mentioned it earlier, stuart hall has some good stuff on Youtube from his Manchester lectures (I believe).

          There is also a BBC series that should still be online called Ways of Seeing that does a great job of getting into matters of representation, perspective, and power by considering art history in Modern Europe.

        •  That presumes a single author work with a very (1+ / 0-)
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          self-conscious author. In works that have multiple people with claims to authorship that doesn't work very well. In a tv show, multiple script writers, the director, and the actors all collaborate (or at times even compete) to create a work. Whose intent gets to trump?

          But more than that, authors are not always (I'd go so far as to say rarely) self-conscious enough to be aware of how their writing and plotting is impacted by racist images and themes in society. That doesn't mean that it's not. What appears on screen is what matters; not what an author thinks or hopes appears on screen.

          Ultimately, we all come to our own interpretations of a work, but we should be able to support it with clear examples. The strength of an interpretation comes from its textual support.

          •  and (0+ / 0-)

            in terms of evidence there is much here. but again, don't separate a text from the social and cultural context that produced. it. once more, given our society it would be like arguing against gravity to somehow assume a text would not embody the racism, sexism, and classism of this society.

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