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  •  How does the Wild Rose stand with this (1+ / 0-)
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    Smoh

    and how much of a chance do they have of weakening the Alberta Conservative Party? (God help us all if Wild Rose get's any real power)

    These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people... -Abraham Lincoln

    by HugoDog on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 12:24:44 PM PST

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    •  Wild Rose is a provincial party (2+ / 0-)
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      Smoh, VClib

      So they won't affect the make up of the national parliament, if you mean will they cause vote splitting on the right?

      And yes it will be bad for the climate if they gain power at the provincial level, but fortunately they didn't manage it during the last Alberta election.

      Federally, Alberta will remain almost entirely conservative for the foreseeable future. The other parties can win back seats in Ontario and BC however, so it's possible to punt the Cons back to a minority government next time. We Canucks can work on that.

      •  How much of a chance (0+ / 0-)

        is there that the NDP can have some influence on Canadian climate change policy?  I'm still amazed that they are the opposition party.

        These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people... -Abraham Lincoln

        by HugoDog on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 12:40:37 PM PST

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        •  right now? pretty much none. (2+ / 0-)
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          HugoDog, Roadbed Guy

          and that's speaking as an NDP member.

          The Conservatives have been consistently anti-democratic in their usage of parliament. They don't give a shit about anyone else's opinions. They don't see the Liberals and NDP as loyal opposition, or as opponents, they see them as enemies to be destroyed. It's pretty close to a dictatorship of Stephen Harper.

          The only hope is that next election the NDP rises to the occasion wins some more seats and the Liberals get their shit together, and win back enough seats to force a minority government. And then hope to gain traction from there.

          But even then, in the last minority Parliament, the NDP got a bill passed to force the government to honour climate change commitments (Kyoto), and the Conservatives had it killed by the Senate. All Canadian senators are appointed by the PM, and Harper has been stacking it with cronies.

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