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  •  Yeah I frankly don't see much advertisement (4+ / 0-)

    outside of magazines/shows taken in by consumers who are extremely likely to already be gun owners. NRA is the bigger problem.

    •  NRA? (2+ / 0-)
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      I've always thought of them as a bought and paid for subsidiary of the gun industry.

      I'm sure you've read of the spike in gun and ammo sales every election cycle? The blacks and socialists are coming to take our guns is a brilliantly executed marketing tool - especially coming from a front for the gun makers.

      "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

      by chuco35 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 09:18:09 AM PST

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      •  You can think of them as such, but their rank- (2+ / 0-)
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        oldpunk, PavePusher

        and-file membership rolls illustrates the difference between them and industry front groups.

        Which is not to say that they, like the AARP, never take positions beyond the interests of their member base, but to pretend they're not grassroots organizations is to misunderstand the source of their power; and also to seriously overestimate the size and wealth of the civilian arms industry.

        Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

        by Robobagpiper on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 10:39:08 AM PST

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        •  NRA = AARP? (0+ / 0-)

          Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

          by Smoh on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 10:50:55 AM PST

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          •  Equals? Of course not. Similar in the causes of (3+ / 0-)
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            their political power, yes. Both organizations do sleazy side-lobbying for the interests of the powerful (NRA and AARP both dabble in insurance schemes, and for other industries allied with their management), but they get the overwhelming majority of their political power from real grassroots numbers.

            Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

            by Robobagpiper on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 11:10:55 AM PST

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