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  •  You do realize that many states do in fact have (11+ / 0-)

    much stricter gun laws than they did when the homocide rate was at its modern high in the early 90's, right?

    "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

    by JesseCW on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 10:06:50 AM PST

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    •  If by "stricter" (0+ / 0-)

      Between the early 90's and today we have 49 states with some form of concealed carry, 39 of them "shall issue" and 4 no permit required.

      Not really a lot stricter unless you are counting the few states that implemented their own versions of the AWB, and those weren't exactly what anybody would consider gun friendly states to begin with.

      •  We have more nuts skulking around with (0+ / 0-)

        guns under their jackets occasionally executing black youth - that's true, as a nation.

        But about a third of the country lives in states that made their guns laws stricter.  And it's these states that have seen the biggest declines in violent crime (CA, NY, MA, ect.).

        This place needs a PVP server.

        by JesseCW on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 06:22:30 AM PST

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        •  Ignoring your sad race baiting (0+ / 0-)

          Looking at homicide rates from the early 1980's to today in both California and Texas show an almost identical set of rates, and matching decline in per capita statistics.

          New York and Texas, very similar.

          It is almost like state gun laws aren't the reason for the decline and something else was going on in large cities in the 80's and early 90's that mostly stopped in the mid to late 90's that was causing an unusual number of homicides in large urban population centers.

          Gosh, what could it have been? I'm sure if we put our heads together we can figure it out.

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