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  •  And you'll notice not from an RKBAer. nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

    by KVoimakas on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:15:08 PM PST

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    •  KV (1+ / 0-)
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      I hope you also noticed that I haven't mentioned RKBA once, and really have no intention to.

      With the exception of you, there has been almost no engagement.

      I got "look at the shiny object"
      I got" what about pacemakers' (still don't know what that means)
      I got 'ridiculous question'

      But really no other serious discussion other than yours.

      Sure, maybe the diary is just not interesting enough, badly written or whatever.  But I find it interesting that many of the gun supporters (whether RKBA or not, I really don't know your membership), pounce on a poorly argued anti-gun diary like a cat on a mouse....and yet a strangely absent when an argument isn't so bad.

      I still haven't heard anyone explain why they carry a gun instead of a AED, they really are very portable and convenient these days...and you a far more likely to save someone's life with them than a gun.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:21:29 PM PST

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      •  As stated above (4+ / 0-)

        If mine wasn't built-in, 'ld buy one just like KV

        "The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced." -Zappa My Site

        by meagert on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:31:08 PM PST

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      •  I don't know why others aren't here. (2+ / 0-)
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        Busy maybe? I know the only reason I'm here today is due to the work I'm currently doing. Otherwise, I wouldn't get to spend so much time on DK.

        I am curious as to your response to my comment above about "I already own a gun because I use one for __."

        Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

        by KVoimakas on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:40:20 PM PST

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        •  This diary wasn't about gun ownership (2+ / 0-)
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          it was about the irrationality of carrying, concealed or open.  My whole point was that folks who carry all the time are not being rational, since the risk of violent crime is about the same as the risk of a heart attack, and the chance of dying of a heart attack is 50 times that of dying from violent crime.

          AEDs are small and portable, as are handguns.  they are not that much more expensive than your gun (I think, see comment way above, does your gun cost more or less than about $700?).

          Given the the comments that my argument is "ridiculous", it would seem that many (not you) find the mere suggestion that they carry an AED absurd...and yet, it is more likely to save a life, and just as likely to be needed as a handgun.

          But people don't carry AEDs, cause its too much of a bother given the potential payoff.  Carrying a handgun has even less.  So why carry them?  Its not rational.

          "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

          by Empty Vessel on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:51:17 PM PST

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