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  •  Good Lord! (11+ / 0-)

    Not asking for ideological purity! Is asking that the candidate didn't champion the most tragic foreign policy blunder in our lifetimes too much to ask of a presidential candidate???

    "Today is who you are" - my wife

    by I Lurked For Years on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 01:23:48 PM PST

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    •  If you are talking about Hillary, then no you (5+ / 0-)

      can't hold her responsible for anything she's done in the past. That's what I was told anyway when I said that I wouldn't support her in the primaries.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:18:59 PM PST

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    •  As you probably can see, I basically agree with (2+ / 0-)

      the disgust over the war.

      I would disagree that she "championed" the war.  She went along with it by voting for the authorization.  But she was far from a leading voice "championing" war in Iraq.  

      Bush/Cheney were headed that way as soon as they got into office.

      By the way, I am not a Hillary supporter from the original Obama run for President.  I supported Obama for president all along, from the day I met him as a US Senator at a Democratic rally in Texas. That was before he was even talking about running for president.

      I do think Hillary deserves a bit of a break. She was one of hundreds of Congressional votes in favor of the authorization.

      "Authorization" is one of the things that must change.  We should have straight up and down votes on Declaring War.  That is a power of Congress.  Not saying, "Well, the president can attack as he wishes," authorizations.

      If she had voted to Declare War on Iraq, I'd look at it more harshly.  I know.  It seems like a semantic game, but that's the way I see it.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 08:36:30 PM PST

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