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  •  It's harder than it looks (6+ / 0-)

    I was involved with my county party for years, and no matter what, the same ninnies and twits were running it when I gave up.

    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 12:33:57 PM PST

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    •  Same twit has been running (4+ / 0-)
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      my county's committee for 22 years. My town committee decided to just focus on the town and campaign for good Dems. We got a Dem assemblyman in our district for the first time in 33 years this year. Came close on the state senate race, too. Well, closer than the geezer who's owned the seat for years has ever experienced anyway.

    •  It's almost impossible. The same ninnies (4+ / 0-)
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      and twits have been running it here in NY-21 (formerly NY-23) for 20 years, too.
      Is why I said buh bye.  But, we can get it done, and it won't take all that long.
      It's damn near impossible to even contact anyone involved at the Committee level, so screw that!  Start dragging those whom you know to represent the progressive wing of the Dem party in your neck of the woods to monthly MeetUps.  They can be held at the local yokel diner, or at the local Civic Club
      that hosts monthly dinners.  But, find a place to gather once a month and start gathering!  A few of us have taken it upon ourselves to expand Dr. Dean's 50 State Strategy to a 200,000 precinct strategy from sea to shining sea, and we need to be doing that right here in NY State.  It involves dragging people to montly MeetUps.  And coordinating with the precincts next door.  Find someone here on Daily Kos from your c.d. and start coordinating with them.  We won't be able to coordinate anything via the local Dem Committees, so we'll have to DIY it.  Start from the ground up and build it ourselves.  See you at a MeetUp soon!

      •  Yup... that's how it is done (5+ / 0-)
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        winkk, sidnora, am, Ohkwai, tb mare

        but I also suggest taking seats on your local democratic committees. Many of them have open seats and/or paper committeemen that are easily defeated and replaced.

        We've done that in several places and drastically improved the local town and county committees. And when the old guard see how hard working the new folks are you get their attention. Plus there are plenty of old guard committee people that will welcome the progressive help with open arms because they've been so out numbered for so long.

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 01:50:21 PM PST

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        •  Good point! I pretty much gave up (3+ / 0-)
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          becuz I got tired of looking into blank stares with the same ol' lame ol', "well, this is how we've done it for the last 150 years.... "  Someone asked me this past summer to run for the Chair, as the Chair was leaving for greener pastures.
          I laughed knowing I had no chance in hell, but maybe if there's a seat open... Wouldn't that just shock the crap out of the Old Guard!  "I know him, he's on Daily Kos... "  "Oh, Christ, we're hosed."

          •  Please do run (4+ / 0-)
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            winkk, sidnora, am, tb mare

            or at least get back on the committee and bring along some friends. We've got Dean people chairing several town and county committees across upstate New York. The more we get the better!

            "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

            by Andrew C White on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 02:11:17 PM PST

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          •  do it! (3+ / 0-)
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            am, tb mare, milkbone

            We're doing it in Brooklyn, which is simultaneously one of the bluest and the most dysfunctional County committees in the state. It took about 6 years, and a heaping plateful of corruption and arrogance which made him an easier target, but the formerly all-powerful County Committee Chairman was forced out this year. And while his successor is no ones idea of a progressive or a reformer, we got important rules changes in exchange for agreeing to his chairmanship, and he knows he can't ignore us the way his predecessor did. One of his first acts as Chairman  was to visit the most progressive Dem Clubs in the county. He said some remarkably unprogressive and un-self-aware things when he came to visit my club (with a box of cannoli!), but he came. His predecessor would more likely have visited the moons of Jupiter.

            It's a start, anyway. And it would never have happened if we hadn't worked to build a reform presence on the County Committee.

            "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

            by sidnora on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 08:39:19 PM PST

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