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  •  Is it fair to let him out? (4+ / 0-)

    An IQ of 51 means functioning with daily issues is tough. For 30 years, he has had no contact with modern society. And during that time society has changed. Radically.

    It might be incumbent on Texass to provide a controlled, safe environment for him - forever. Housing, three squares, with some limited freedom, but with lots of safe supervision and support.

    I do not suggest warehousing him in jail, but throwing him to the streets, unprepared, unprotected, would be just as cruel.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 03:58:12 AM PST

    •  But if it's what he wants ... NT (1+ / 0-)
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    •  It depends on which IQ they use (0+ / 0-)

      An IQ of 50 used to be considered average, just as a grade of "C" used to be considered average.  With everyone wanting to be all "special" and "smart" and all, those results have been skewed and skewed, so they have become virtually meaningless.

      A person with an IQ of 50 could be quite competent and average, and to portray him as less so might be a disservice to him.

      Although I do agree that 30 years in prison is a serious disadvantage - a lot has changed in 30 years and integrating back into society would be a challenge.  I don't agree, however, that he would need a controlled, supervised, with limited freedom, environment forever.

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      by Noddy on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 06:03:41 AM PST

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      •  Not forever, but for a time long enough (0+ / 0-)

        To educate, prepare, to acclimate. If we fail to do so, nothing good will come of his release.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 07:12:11 AM PST

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      •  That's not how IQ tests have ever been scored. (6+ / 0-)

        The Stanford–Binet was the first real IQ test, and it used 100 as the median.

        All major IQ tests since have generally reported their results the same way, with 15 points variation representing each standard variation from the norm.

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        by JesseCW on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 07:34:44 AM PST

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      •  100 is average, and 95% fall within 70-130 (0+ / 0-)

        and the average has been shifting up ~3 pts per decade, so by today's standards, this man's IQ, as measured 30 years ago, would be ~40. At any rate, he would be judged as mildly to moderately mentally disabled, very likely a candidate for supervised housing, sheltered workshop, etc.

        YES WE DID -- AGAIN. FOUR MORE YEARS.

        by raincrow on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 10:54:57 AM PST

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