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  •  Say What??? (0+ / 0-)

    Have another cup of coffee or Stop and piss out the over dose of!!

    You just made No sense at all!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 07:12:25 AM PST

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    •  Our laws are made by Congress, not the UN (0+ / 0-)

      If we want better treatment of the disabled in this country, then we need to have Congress pass better laws.  

      Does signing the UN treaty automatically put new laws in effect?  Does it force Congress to act?  It's a serious question.

      •  The treaty doesn't change American law at all. (3+ / 0-)

        In fact, as your morning paper said, this is an international treaty to bring the parameters of the ADA to the world. It means all the countries that ratify it are willing to treat their disabled citizens the same as ours are already treated. This will also help all disabled people to be able to travel anywhere.

        The problem is that by not ratifying it, the US looks really bad to the rest of the world. It's almost like we're mocking them.

      •  Hey the Norm (0+ / 0-)

        You got a real heavy dose of the teabag running through ya, a Real Heavy Dose!!!!!!!!!

        Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

        by jimstaro on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 09:10:09 AM PST

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        •  Um, no. (0+ / 0-)

          If thinking for myself means I have a "dose of the teabag", you may want to re-evaluate what you're advocating for.  Let me break it down for you:

          The US passes the Americans for Disibility Act, which is real legislation that does real good things for real people.

          The UN then writes a treaty, which isn't real legislation and doesn't do anything real.  Countries around the world say they'll pass real legislation and protect real people, only if every other country first signs the treaty.  Meanwhile, their disabled citizens sit and wait.

          Next, 6 Republican senators refuse to sign the treaty, which has no impact on the already passed American laws the treaty is based on.  I agree it looks like a dick move, and there was no reason not to sign it.  But here's the rub....

          So all those countries that were going to implement ADA laws of their own back home (real actions for real people), now aren't going to do so, because 6 Republicans "mocked" them?  They were going to help the disabled, and now they're not?  And that's resonable behavior to you?

          Actions speak louder than words.  The ADA is American law.  If other countries want to protect their disabled citizens, then they will pass ADA style laws themselves.  In fact, they should have already passed them.  They don't need to wait for a UN treaty, they shouldn't wait for a UN treaty.

          Or do we really live in a world where global progress stops because 6 Republicans vote no?  Again, is that resonable behavior to you?  To give 6 republicans that much power?

          The rest of the world can simply tell the Republicans to go to hell and pass new laws anyway.  Because this UN treaty doesn't do anything real, nothing bad happens because 6 republicans didn't vote for it. It's rediculous to think that way.  But I'm sure the GOP just loves all the authority you give them.  They just shut down the UN, and you agree!

          If that makes me a teabagger, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

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