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  •  Teenagers know when they're being fed bullshit (9+ / 0-)

    This will backfire.

    •  Is this snark? (34+ / 0-)

      Teenagers are no more intelligent than anyone else, and would have no baseline to judge when they're surrounded by propaganda in both media and education.  That's why propaganda works, especially when not disinfected by the harsh light of open discussion.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

      by Troubadour on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 08:10:07 AM PST

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      •  I rec'ed but don't totally agree (0+ / 0-)

        The teens I have known ... my daughter and her friends, as well as my friends' slightly older ex-teens ...are skeptical of pretty much everything.  My daughter is pretty damned skeptical of everything I say, for instance.  

        But if she or her friends have a committed teacher who respects their budding intellect and who teaches them the ways to look at a problem or issue without dictating what they should think, they are excited and willing to examine what they learn critically.

        There are hugely fewer teachers from the right-wing who can connect that way with teenagers since authoritarianism is generally the norm especially among the  religious right but almost equally among the Chicago School adherents for whom Capitalism is the authority.  


        "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

        by Glinda on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 05:32:50 PM PST

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        •  I am a teacher and teens are easily "taught" in (0+ / 0-)

          whatever curriculum is presented to them.

           This is why it is so immensely important that ideas, truths, facts, theories and such are presented in a true and valid way.  The vast majority of children, whether they are 5 or 17 years old, when presented an idea by a teacher, will hold it to be true until such is disproved.  This can be by their own research or perhaps at a later time, if it is presented in a different light.  However, some may never  be taught economics again, and the chances of most actually researching it on their own is slim to none.  

          Thus, to have this type of curriculum in any classroom is a danger and one that I am afraid to say, is more the norm that you would think for high school economics.  Budget, cut, budget, cut.....rings loud and clear and heaven forbid you ever suggest any type of "S" word or any type of suggestion to a European model.

      •  Ah, ageism (0+ / 0-)

        Teenagers today have access to the Internet. Even in my day, we had access to libraries, radio and TV, and current publications. The teenage years are the time when humans are most likely to discover that their parents and teachers are self-serving idiots.

        As a teenager back in the Old Stone Age before computers, I can confirm that every teenager I knew in my high school knew about a lot of the BS we were fed. Certainly, not everybody knew about everything. Only a small fraction at any time really do anything with that knowledge except under very favorable conditions.

        Public anti-BS behavior was much more common in the '60s than at any time before or since. However, it is coming back, and Daily Kos is part of it.

        I spend most of my time trying to make it come back, or rather, extending that opportunity to millions of children around the world who never had such an opportunity before. If we could get up the political will to extend education and Internet access to the entire school age population, a billion or so, I have some ideas about the form a new Generation Gap might take.

        It is, after all, the job of every cohort of children to take over the world and wrench the levers of power from the cold, dead, hands of their elders. Too many of those elders consider it to be their job to stave them off until they are nearly as old and twice as hidebound as themselves.

        America—We built that!

        by Mokurai on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:29:28 AM PST

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    •  Yes, but not by enhancing their taste for inquiry (0+ / 0-)

      It will cause them to tune out. Just like they do with the feel-good garbage we call High School American History.

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 10:53:19 AM PST

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    •  If that were the case (3+ / 0-)
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      the GOP would now be defunct.

      •  The correct statement would be that (0+ / 0-)

        most teenagers recognize BS, but only a small percentage do anything about it. Only a few percent a year change or drop religion or change political party. For the rest, that's just the world they live in, and they can't change it, and they go along to get along.

        The Federalists became Jefferson's implacable foes in the election of 1800, and functioned as the original Party of No during his eight years as President. They won their last state-level election in 1815. If the Republicans disappear in 2023, which would match that chronology, it would go into the history books as comparably sudden. But everything of the kind takes forever when you have to live through it.

        How did you go bankrupt?

        Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.

        Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises

        America—We built that!

        by Mokurai on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:41:51 AM PST

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    •  As I recall, high school students who care about (2+ / 0-)
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      their GPA know to learn information as it's presented in the course and regurgitate it in the exams for the best grade.

    •  Yep. They know cigarettes are bad. Oh, wait... (5+ / 0-)
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      Teenagers are notorious for being impressionable, easily swayed by emotion over logic, and prone to forming attitudes and habits of thought that will persist into adult-hood despite diligent attempts to change.

      Hence Phillip-Morris markets assiduously to teens, because they can get many of them hooked in tobacco for life. The evil weasels of right wing economic 'thought' have already managed to persuade most kids that unions are bad; this is merely the next step.

      Teaching them to love their own chains. It's almost unbelievably evil.

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