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  •  Yes, yes, no and (0+ / 0-)

    your last question is unnecessarily confrontational.  

    Can you call yourself a real liberal if you aren't reading driftglass?

    by CJB on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 08:39:14 PM PST

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    •  no it's not (0+ / 0-)

      the existence of a good charter school does not negate any aspect of the bigger picture.

      •  Sweet Spot posted a ridiculous straw man. (0+ / 0-)

        You perpetuate that straw man.  

        I am done here.

        Can you call yourself a real liberal if you aren't reading driftglass?

        by CJB on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:03:29 PM PST

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        •  What "straw man?" (0+ / 0-)

          I don't think you know what that term actually means.

          Sweet Spot asks four questions. That is all.

        •  How so? (0+ / 0-)

          Research is done using multiple sources of information. The fact that some people can smoke all their lives and live to be 100 doesn't mean that smoking is safe, or that it doesn't contribute to causing lung cancer.
          The same is true of experiences with charter schools.

          I can give anecdotes too.
          For example, I can point out that because (the parents of) a few children from my local elementary school chose to attend a  charter school, the local elementary school lost the equivalent in funding of a full teacher's salary and benefits. Since that school had only one class per grade, it put the school in a very precarious position in regard to all the rest of the students there.

          Or I can tell you about the three districts nearby that are contemplating bankruptcy because some (parents of) kids in those districts' schools chose to attend charter schools.

          I'm sure I can find examples of individuals who had great experiences in charter schools near hear, but each of those great experiences came at a great cost to the students who are in the public schools. Is this really what we want to do? If so, then we're doing the republicans' job for them.

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