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  •  Lawrence O'Donnell was just on (5+ / 0-)

    MSNBC explaining very clearly that Medicare cuts being described by Democrats as being put into effect on the provider side is just a bunch of bullshit to make people think that it won't reduce benefits.

    That was troubling.  On a number of levels - one which was that neither he nor the SpinCycle panel seemed to think there was anything wrong with it.

    •  We can not keep cutting provider reimbursement (4+ / 0-)

      under this catchall banner "it will not cut benefits." It already does.  I didn't mention it because of the election and party loyalty, but the CBO analyzed the original $500 billion we originally took out of Medicare to pay for the ACA and only one third was the Advantage Plans, another third was reimbursement for hospitalizations.

      Medicare patients have such higher re-hospitilization after that a new rule is being imposed to penalize hospitals as much as 3% of their future reimbursement under the theory that they are discharging Medicare payment too early all ready, due to fixed excessively low reimbursement.

      But, most of the seniors I read didn't believe it either and many have advanced theories that the 15% loss of senior in 2010 from 2008 was the primary reason for our losses then.

      When Romney polled on this he quickly renounced the Medicare cuts and promised to put it back in, and told Paul Ryan to shut up about future cuts.  I think we will commit a blunder if we try to take any more out of Medicare under this non-plausible theory.

      Letting Medicare negotiate with big Pharma is okay, as would be letting seniors buy in to Medicare, would be a great option those it is political doubtful this will even be brought up.

      Last January I read that the Mayo Clinics of AZ will not accept Medicare patients any longer because they lose to much money on them.

      When I was diagnosed with diabetes in April a year and a half ago, the first available appointment with a nutritionist I could get from the award winning Fenway Community Health Center in Boston, which is excellent, was December.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 01:19:47 PM PST

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      •  cutting provider reimbursements is the same (2+ / 0-)
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        HoundDog, whaddaya

        as cutting benefits because if there are no providers who will take Medicare patients, then there are no reimbursements required.

        It is ridiculous that you can't get an appointment faster and we know that's because there are fewer and fewer providers willing to take Medicare.

      •  We can't raise the Medicare tax. (1+ / 0-)
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        democrattotheend

        It is regressive and it isn't capped. Raising the Medicare tax would just devastate working people who have to pay for the elderly under Medicare. They matter too. Their checks are already getting slammed enough by payroll taxes.

        So if we can't raise the Medicare tax, where are we going to get the money to pay for the baby boomers? Somebody has to get cut until the boomers are all dead.

        I haven't seen the numbers on what kind of growth it would take to grow our way out of this, but I'll bet its much higher than the 2 to 3 percent we can expect for the next 10 to 20 years.

        I mean, I just don't see a way around this where nobody gets hurt.

    •  It's all a game to them (1+ / 0-)
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      inclusiveheart

      They may find out it's not a game to many of the rest of us.

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