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  •  That link you gave me does not say (0+ / 0-)

    it was a deliberate strategy. I am more than willing to learn more about this, but you have not made the case for this.

    •  Are. You. Kidding? (1+ / 0-)
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      And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention
      Can you think of some other reason Carter would have funded right-wing fundamentalist monsters who were rebelling against their Government because it had started funding schools in which girls were being taught to read?

      dEar Ellois: U send Fud down holez, we no eaTz u. That iz deAl. No forget. MooRlockz Haz 2 eats. Stoopid Elloiz.

      by JesseCW on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 06:55:21 PM PDT

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      •  I'm doing very simple math here. (0+ / 0-)

        Brzezinski says he wrote that after Carter signed the directive.

        •  You did the math? (0+ / 0-)

          Based on this??

          And that very day, I wrote a note to the president

          I suppose you have a minute by minute timeline of these guys schedules from that day?

          Well OK then - I believe you.  But having that level of detail makes your claim a couple of posts ago that you knew nothing about this just a tad sketchy.

      •  Wait - he says "that very day." I somehow (0+ / 0-)

        read that as the next day.

        Although, he says, right after that, this:

        Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

        B: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

        And the source of my objection up ther was teh commenter acting like the Soviets had ZERO repsonsibility.
    •  I dunno - read the entire interview (1+ / 0-)
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      he gave more than one essentially saying the same thing with slightly different wording

      Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

      Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

      IOW, they weren't sure the Soviet would take the bait, but the Soviets did and were successfully goaded into Afganistan - it's a fact they were quite willing to brag about in 1998.  Strangely it's not looking all that good these days and tends to be swept under the rug for some reason . . .

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