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  •  Why the disparity? (1+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY

    Or are unions there just very, very, very active compared to those in other states, even if they aren't that much of a greater percentage of the work force?

    I'm a corporatist McGovernite Atari Democrat...I think.

    by bjssp on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 10:58:14 AM PST

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    •  Nevada has an extremely big service sector (3+ / 0-)
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      Even dealers have a union, under the umbrella of the UAW (at least that's the way it is in Atlantic City).

      Age 23. Voting in NJ-03. Lived most of life in NJ-01. Had Rush Holt represent me during my undergrad years and am now represented by Frank Pallone in my grad school.

      by KingofSpades on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 10:59:53 AM PST

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      •  Right, but if it's a RTW state, how are they (2+ / 0-)
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        able to maintain membership? The trend in other states seems to be that after RTW comes, it gets harder and harder to collect dues.

        I'm a corporatist McGovernite Atari Democrat...I think.

        by bjssp on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:06:04 AM PST

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        •  That I do not know (2+ / 0-)
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          I assume they just work harder to organize and encourage as many as people as possible to join so they can pay dues AND reap the benefits, so that it's not a drain on the union resources.

          Age 23. Voting in NJ-03. Lived most of life in NJ-01. Had Rush Holt represent me during my undergrad years and am now represented by Frank Pallone in my grad school.

          by KingofSpades on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:08:43 AM PST

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        •  Good internal organization. (7+ / 0-)

          Right-to-work doesn't make operating a union impossible.  My union has a manufacturing shop in Staunton Virginia, and despite many of the members being reactionaries, we usually have 70%-90% signup.  On the other hand, we have some school districts in western Iowa where only a dozen people actually pay into the union, and there is a perpetual mess as a result.  

          What open shop means is that unless you have people active in the shop and promoting the union, the union will weaken and die.  It was originally put in place in many states more to stop unions from organizing than anything, as if a union can choose to focus organizing on a state where 100% of the people will pay in some manner, versus another where it's an unknown amount (and resources must be spent to constantly re-organize the workplace).  

          Also, it deprives unions of a lot of PAC money, which is why I think Republicans are pushing it now, rather than merely employers wanting it.  

    •  There's a UNITE-HERE (6+ / 0-)

      Local in Las Vegas (popularly called "the culinary" for historic purposes) which has the casino industry organized wall-to-wall.  They are a potent force in local and state politics.  So much so they can get their members to re-register as Republicans to defeat conservative Republicans in primaries.  

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