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  •  Bringing the issue back to elections (0+ / 0-)

    If this happens, and Democrats don't want to suffer disastrously low base turnout in 2014, they better get a lot in exchange for it.  It was OK to give a lot in 2011 when after the midterms Obama really was repudiated and had his back to the wall.  But after a big win, you better negotiate for most of what you want, and if you surrender anything your base cares about, you better get a lot in exchange for it.

    44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

    by DCCyclone on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:19:47 AM PST

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    •  It isn't any different (0+ / 0-)

      To lower conservative turnout should Republicans allow tax increases. The nature of any deal is both sides giving something up. It may not be this but if there is agreement before New Years there will certainly be elements Democrats hate. But the other side will likely hate the package even more.

      "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

      by conspiracy on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:46:18 AM PST

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      •  I don't think that's quite right (1+ / 0-)
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        If you look at polling, it's very consistent that rank-and-file Republicans are divided on taxes, and rank-and-file Democrats are united in opposing entitlement benefit cuts.

        So it's not the same political impact, it's not the same at all.  Our side will oppose benefit cuts far more strongly than Republicans will oppose tax hikes on the rich.  Yes the teabaggers are among the fierce opponents, but they're only as powerful as their ability to get their party's masses to follow them.

        44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 12:00:18 PM PST

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        •  If that was the deal (1+ / 0-)
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          I think more Republicans would lose primaries as a result of their vote than Democrats. Anyway, my main point remains that both sides will have to suck it up to some degree should there be a deal. I agree with you Democrats should be in position to get the better of it.

          "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

          by conspiracy on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 12:36:24 PM PST

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