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  •  not too hard to figure out (2+ / 0-)
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    poopdogcomedy, MichaelNY

    Schwartz runs for governor and Doyle runs for senate. Even though he (Doyle) has been in the house for nearly 20 years, he's only 11th on E&C.

    RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

    by demographicarmageddon on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 02:39:26 PM PST

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    •  And where does that leave Rob McCord? (2+ / 0-)
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      I heard they want him.

      Age 23. Voting in NJ-03. Lived most of life in NJ-01. Had Rush Holt represent me during my undergrad years and am now represented by Frank Pallone in my grad school.

      by KingofSpades on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 02:54:28 PM PST

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    •  Mike Doyle is my home district congressman! I (1+ / 0-)
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      would love to see that happen!

      Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

      by poopdogcomedy on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 03:00:21 PM PST

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    •  Doyle is my him district's congressman! I would (0+ / 0-)

      love to see that happen!

      Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

      by poopdogcomedy on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 03:01:15 PM PST

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    •  isn't Doyle pro-life? (2+ / 0-)
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      We should have at least one pro-choice senator from PA.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 03:28:00 PM PST

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      •  He's also a member of (4+ / 0-)

        the creepy, shadowy Christian group The Family.

        •  As is Mike McIntyre (1+ / 0-)
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          They don't feature prominently on Jeff Sharlet's expose book, and are mentioned merely as part of a list and brief description.  The book has some pretty startling insights into former Rep. Todd Tiahrt.  In the book, Jeff saw him talking to the Family's priest/leader about his "concerns" of Muslims outbreeding Christians (no joke; Tiahrt also wants to ban abortion because it would allow Christians to breed in greater numbers).  Dan Coats and Dan Quayle are also members (the former is so dim that he has Dan Quayle as his mentor).  Senator Bill Nelson is a member and his wife is Hillary Clinton's spiritual adviser.  Hillary even has friendly ties with the Family.  Sam Brownback was an alpha dog in the Family.

          Age 23. Voting in NJ-03. Lived most of life in NJ-01. Had Rush Holt represent me during my undergrad years and am now represented by Frank Pallone in my grad school.

          by KingofSpades on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 04:49:20 PM PST

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        •  he's also a selfish backstabber. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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          MichaelNY, bumiputera

          Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

          by sapelcovits on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 06:41:06 AM PST

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      •  I'm pretty strongly pro-choice (1+ / 0-)
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        (although i support the ban on birthday infanticide) but to me its all about messaging. If you frame it as a human rights thing in the same mold as civil rights, gay rights, labor rights etc then its ok. But if its the foaming at the mouth rubespeak of "abortion is a symptom of a nation in moral decline because we teach our kids to worship the un instead of god" then i ain't buying it.

        RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

        by demographicarmageddon on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 04:10:31 PM PST

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        •  I'm generally fine with pro-life Democrats, (1+ / 0-)
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          I really like Casey, for example, and Tim Ryan, but one Senator Casey from PA is enough.

          ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

          by James Allen on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:33:43 PM PST

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          •  I'm fine as long as they bury it (3+ / 0-)
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            Be pro-life in name only, keeping it out of your active agenda and enough of your votes in that "gray area," e.g., on abortion coverage in the health care exchanges.  That Casey and Reid (also nominally pro-life) voted for the health care bill notwithstanding any abortion is an example of why I'm satisfied with them.  Oh, and confirm all Democratic judicial appointments.  Which they do.

            44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

            by DCCyclone on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:39:22 PM PST

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        •  So you think it's all about framing (0+ / 0-)

          rather than real-world effects of policy. We shouldn't have policy arguments here, but we also shouldn't forget that government policies can actually hurt real people. And please don't bring up ridiculous red herrings. No-one supports "abortion" of babies who are in the process of being born. Though perhaps that was a joke on your part.

          Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

          by MichaelNY on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 10:39:56 PM PST

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