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  •  I'm pretty strongly pro-choice (1+ / 0-)
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    JBraden

    (although i support the ban on birthday infanticide) but to me its all about messaging. If you frame it as a human rights thing in the same mold as civil rights, gay rights, labor rights etc then its ok. But if its the foaming at the mouth rubespeak of "abortion is a symptom of a nation in moral decline because we teach our kids to worship the un instead of god" then i ain't buying it.

    RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

    by demographicarmageddon on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 04:10:31 PM PST

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    •  I'm generally fine with pro-life Democrats, (1+ / 0-)
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      DCCyclone

      I really like Casey, for example, and Tim Ryan, but one Senator Casey from PA is enough.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:33:43 PM PST

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      •  I'm fine as long as they bury it (3+ / 0-)
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        bjssp, MichaelNY, James Allen

        Be pro-life in name only, keeping it out of your active agenda and enough of your votes in that "gray area," e.g., on abortion coverage in the health care exchanges.  That Casey and Reid (also nominally pro-life) voted for the health care bill notwithstanding any abortion is an example of why I'm satisfied with them.  Oh, and confirm all Democratic judicial appointments.  Which they do.

        44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:39:22 PM PST

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    •  So you think it's all about framing (0+ / 0-)

      rather than real-world effects of policy. We shouldn't have policy arguments here, but we also shouldn't forget that government policies can actually hurt real people. And please don't bring up ridiculous red herrings. No-one supports "abortion" of babies who are in the process of being born. Though perhaps that was a joke on your part.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 10:39:56 PM PST

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