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  •  According to my (4+ / 0-)
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    mothers' notes (she did loads of this kind of research before it was popular, when it was all letters and going to various libraries). Gov. Tom was the grandson of an earlier Thomas, born 1509 in Tisbury, England, who was in turn the son of Robert of Dinton, born 14-something.

    History of Martha's Vineyard refers to them as "yeoman."

    Gov. Tom emigrated to Medford, Mass., in 1631. Tom's daughter Martha (b. 1642) married Thomas Tupper on 27 December 1661.

    My line descends through son Thomas (b. 1621), who seems to have been Gov. Tom's first-born.

    In reading through this, I am struck by how many of these folks were tough and hardy stock, which I suppose you'd have to be to survive an Atlantic voyage in those conditions. A good number of them lived into the 70s, 80s, even 90s, and so did a whole passel of their kids.

    So it seems that we are, indeed, cousins, although about a zillion times removed.

    The truth is rarely pure and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde

    by Mnemosyne on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 04:40:49 PM PST

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    •  Delighted to have a newly found cousin! (3+ / 0-)

      Even if  a gazillion times removed!

      I agree with you that we indeed come from hardy stock!

      •  and ya know what? (0+ / 0-)

        All those ancestors, the Mayflower types and some of the DAR types, were immigrants, a category so roundly reviled of late by certain politicians.


        The truth is rarely pure and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde

        by Mnemosyne on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 08:33:57 PM PST

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        •  Ah, yes (1+ / 0-)
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          I have a big problem with the rabid anti-immigration crowd.

          They seem to have no idea who their beloved "Founding Fathers"  were - much less their own immigrant origins.
          Unfortunately, they also seem to have no interest in learning any history which would challenge their hysterics,

          •  I was vastly amused (0+ / 0-)

            by the anti-French ones, the extollers of "freedom fries." Many of them seemed to have surnames of French origin and come from states that were part of the Louisiana Purchase.

            The truth is rarely pure and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde

            by Mnemosyne on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:28:06 AM PST

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            •  I wonder how much (1+ / 0-)
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              self-hatred plays in some? So many, particularly in Louisiana have French (and more) lines way back.

              I was married to a 1st generation Louisianan who harbored a good deal of prejudice - though it was the discrimination he experienced that drove him to amass his millions. He had many good qualities - but that one awful blind spot. I like to think his last illness brought some deeper understanding.

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