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  •  Testify! (19+ / 0-)

    It's not that religion that is non-existent or dead, it's the God the manifold and variegated religions profess that is non-existant.

    I happily ignore religion and God, but why can't the practitioners of religion happily ignore me? (God is already ignoring me and everyone else, and I'm okay with that.)

    Why is it easier to come out as gay than come out as Atheist? Perhaps it's because people know, deep down, sexual preference isn't something you actually decide.

    And what is it about radio show hosts who are conservative and religious, make them think they know so damn much about liberals and atheists?

    To reduce crime, make fewer things against the law.

    by Bruce The Moose on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:22:47 AM PST

    •  They just absolutely cannot fathom (9+ / 0-)

      that somebody might be different than they are, and be OK with that.

      They are the very definition of intolerance. Hypocrisy, as well.

      Just ignore the atheists. If they want advice about religion, they'll ask for it.

      Though I'd hazard a guess that the atheists know at least as much about your religion as you do, and quite possibly more, and that they know a good bit about other religions as well.

      Most atheists are atheists because religion makes no sense to them and provides them with no comfort. If it did, they wouldn't be atheists.

      •  I think its because their personalities are split: (4+ / 0-)
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        They spend 24/7 minus 1 hour per week figuring out how to screw their neighbor out of his last dime (it's only business after all), then spend an hour in a love-peace-harmony-forgive-your-neighbor ceremony to cancel it all out.  They see atheists as themselves, minus the 1-hour balance, so they think we are monsters.

        The "good" ones just don't understand there is a different way to live.  The "bad" ones are terrified we'll call them out on their 1 hour charade.

        and their contempt for the Latin schools was applauded by Theodoric himself, who gratified their prejudices, or his own, by declaring that the child who had trembled at a rod would never dare to look upon a sword.

        by ban48 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 02:12:40 PM PST

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    •  Small quibble: I don't think we really decide (20+ / 0-)

      to be atheists--in the same way that I didn't decide to be a progressive. It's the way I am, based on my understanding of the issues, and I can consciously change that part of me just about as easily as I can decide to be a different sexuality or gender. I couldn't just wake up tomorrow and make a decision to believe in a god or gods, even if I wanted to.

      I think their hatred of the skeptics is based more on the challenge posed to their religious authority by the mere existence of rational, sensible people who reject their religion.

      "In an individual, selfishness uglifies the soul; for the human species, selfishness is extinction." -Cloud Atlas, by David Mitchell

      by rigcath on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 11:42:48 AM PST

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      •  Yes, it all comes down to authoritarianism again (10+ / 0-)

        They don't care what we believe. What they care is that they get to tell us what they want us to believe, and that nobody else has the right to publicly disagree with them.  It's not really about belief, it's about power, dominance, and hierarchy.  Insulting, trivializing, and misrepresenting our position is part of the power play.

        This is why they hate being mocked.  It's the ultimate FU to authority.  So I suggest irreverent mockery alongside reasonable objections.

      •  I'm not so sure of this. I didn't consider myself (0+ / 0-)

        an atheist until relatively recently.  I always thought that the concept of humans as fish in gods bowl blowing bubbles for his amusement and hoping he will throw us extra food pellets and scoop out the mean fish next door was always ridiculous.  But I had thought the concept of a deity was harmless enough.

        But I've since realized is that it is inherent to monotheism that: two people will eventually get up on soap boxes, announce that there is only one god and they bear his message, look each other in the eye, and start a holy war.  It is inherently dangerous.

        Ironically, my attitude hardened at the baptism for a niece where the minister went on and on about how we are all sinners and all damned without jesus.  I didn't want my kids exposed to that.  But, my brother (the parent) had been more atheistic than I was.  But he felt, since he was a parent now, he should reconsider a religious upbringing for the kids and has since slipped back into the fold.

        and their contempt for the Latin schools was applauded by Theodoric himself, who gratified their prejudices, or his own, by declaring that the child who had trembled at a rod would never dare to look upon a sword.

        by ban48 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 01:05:53 PM PST

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