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  •  The OFA databases cannot be shared. (3+ / 0-)
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    Legally impossible. not with anyone. The straightforward voter information has already been given to the DNC. The rest about personal preferences that individuals agreed to share with OFA for the purposes of elected PBO is restricted by privacy law and other protections; it is also tailored to that one purpose and would be useless for other campaigns.

    You might find it useful to read Zizi's diary, it was very well researched and argued, unlike the one which provoked it which was based on a misquoting of an article in Politico---you know the people who brought you the idea that a electorate made up of African-Americans, women, urban folks, and the highly educated did not constitute a broad mandate.....

    Facts not provocation about the Obama database

    "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

    by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 07:55:13 PM PST

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    •  I read it more closely than you did (2+ / 0-)

      Zizi is not that well informed.  People can be asked to "opt in" for certain parts of their data that are not in the VAN database (the part of the system you describe as "already shared with the DNC")

      A good deal of the system can and should be shared.  And many of the legal issues can handled IF money is found to work these things out in time for 2013 races.

      I wish people would just stop with this shit.  The data people from OFA are pretty clear as to the system's architecture, and folks who know and work these kinds of databases and are familiar with the relevant laws do not agree with your point of view.

      Stop it.

      [I]t is totally not true that Mitt Romney strapped Paul Ryan to the top of a car and drove him to Canada. Stop spreading rumors! -- Gail Collins

      by mbayrob on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 10:06:57 PM PST

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      •  ok. i'll just stick with thosevwho do (0+ / 0-)

        Names available on request. Or we can let Ofa work it out for itself.

        "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

        by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 02:12:02 AM PST

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        •  We agreed to let OFA work out for itself. (0+ / 0-)

          Both posters agree that the the data specialists at OFA know the information science and laws and can arrive best at a solution and what information can be shared....which may be an expensive proposition.

          What may still be discussed is how (and even if)  information gathered to ge person XXX to message, contribute, volunteer based on their FB info in a presidential  campaign can be made useful  to other candidates in other states for other positions in future years facing other rivals ..but this beyond my area of commment  at 5:12 am....

          so the subject is here considered to be suspended on my end.

          "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

          by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 11:51:03 AM PST

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    •  then why (1+ / 0-)
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      is OFA still, to this day, mining for personal information?

      It's been a hundred years, isn't it time we stopped blaming Captain Smith for sinking the Titanic?

      by happymisanthropy on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:41:13 AM PST

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