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  •  Should clarify this more (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    How and why would you expand?  Yes, I know it feels good, but what's the rationale and what would it do?

    Fortunately there's a very good answer.  Expanding Medicare -- if it replaces private insurance -- moves people into a much less expensive health insurance program.  Expanding Social Security -- if it means replacing 401k contributions -- moves people into a cheaper-to-administer, easier-to-secure program that provides greater old-age security.

    But that's the key.  Don't just talk about feel-good stuff, explain why and how replacing what we have now would save money and improve the outcome.

    •  The whole point is that this isn't even being (2+ / 0-)
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      mrsgoo, Calamity Jean

      explored on an official level - it's dismissed out of hand because of some purely ideological / corrupt obsession with conservative means to conservative ends.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

      by Troubadour on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 05:27:20 PM PST

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      •  And that really pisses me off. (1+ / 0-)
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        Troubadour

        if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

        by mrsgoo on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 10:39:44 PM PST

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    •  I would love to pay to Medicare what I am paying (0+ / 0-)

      for private insurance right now.

      if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

      by mrsgoo on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 10:38:58 PM PST

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