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  •  It was always going to be a nasty civil war (4+ / 0-)

    This is Lebanon on a larger scale.

    Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

    by Mindful Nature on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 09:39:23 PM PST

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    •  I hope the right people win. (1+ / 0-)
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      The people of that region deserve a win once in a while.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

      by Troubadour on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 11:34:12 PM PST

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      •  It's odd that we're considering the salafists and (3+ / 0-)

        Al Qaeda to be the "good guys" in this situation, But I guess saying I don't like either side just makes me a rabid supporter of the Status Quo.

        Whoever wins, Joe Syrian loses.

        You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

        by Johnny Q on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 01:30:45 AM PST

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        •  I obviously wasn't talking about those shitbirds. (0+ / 0-)

          In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

          by Troubadour on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 01:35:12 AM PST

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        •  It's a nice aesthetic stance (0+ / 0-)

          you've got there, as do a lot of people.  The game stays the same and no one gets eliminated for contention for power until Assad falls, though.  After that more factions get eliminated, including some or most of those on the rebel side.

          I just can't stand the internalized creationism that Left conservatives bring to this and similar problems.  I.e. the weird assumption that the evolution/devolution of power and forms ends at the immediate problem.  

          Syria has a long ugly history of remarkable brutality and scores being kept by the groups who are the victims and the perps of it.  That's a reality that Assad falling will unveil.  That isn't ultimate reality, but it's one that will be dealt with.  Assad not falling soon simply keeps that pent up and it will emerge whenever he does.

          Joe Syrian knows his country's history and its consequences into the present and middle future.  It's not love of it that drives the rebellion, it's acceptance that how ever horrible will be what comes, it has inevitability to it.  It's a legacy that cannot be escaped.  There is nothing to be done- the cause is a history without justice or correction- but survive it.

      •  It's very unlikely that anyone is going to "win" (1+ / 0-)
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        in the short term.

        I'd put a repeat of Lebanon in the 80's at about twice as likely as any kind of medium term peace.

        This place needs a PVP server.

        by JesseCW on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 05:59:29 AM PST

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      •  the puzzle is who are the "right" people (1+ / 0-)
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        the options seems to be brutal secularists vs. batshit crazy religionists.

        Hardly a "win-win" scenario.

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