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  •  true but California may be the state (11+ / 0-)

    that sparks the national decision from the Supreme Court.

    since the Obamacare decision I've been wondering whether Roberts is turning to our side.  Roberts himself might even write the decision for Hollingsworth v. Perry (and United States v. Windsor) to create a forward-thinking legacy for the Roberts Court.

    i can dream, can't I?

    "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
    Four More Years! How sweet it is!!!

    by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:47:35 AM PST

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    •  Roberts may be less of a social (16+ / 0-)

      conservative and more of a traditional Buckley/Goldwater conservative, like George Will who yesterday thought that the anti-equality forces were going to ultimately lose. Those folks don't really care what people do in their private lives as long as their tax bills stay low. (Some of the ones in my own family are very much pro-choice, figuring a few hundred bucks for an abortion beats 18+ years of welfare payments for an unplanned kid.) They formed an alliance with the Religious Reich to gain access to power, but have reaped the bitter fruits.

      Americans in general don't really hold well with extremism in any form, whether from the Left or the Right.

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 09:06:32 AM PST

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    •  I sure hope so (5+ / 0-)

      I have to say I was stunned that the Supremes didn't punt on Prop 8. The 9th Circuit decision was so narrow it would be easy for them to refuse certiorari and just let it become legal in California only.  So, does this mean they'll use the case to legalize marriage equality everywhere, or to allow it only if states say they want it, or to ban it everywhere?  I don't know what Roberts will do, as he seems a dyed-in-the-wool corporate supremacist, but he's come down on the wrong side of other social issues.  But he doesn't want to end up on the wrong side of history, so that is pushing him into becoming a swing vote himself.

      I am going to be really annoyed if they rule that Prop 8 was legal. The only upside to that tragedy would be that our 2/3 supermajority in both houses would put the repeal amendment up for a vote so we don't have to spend millions gathering signatures.  And. It. Will. Pass. By. A. Huge. Majority.  Unfortunately, not until June 2014.

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