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  •  So we should be advocating for paying more into... (7+ / 0-)

    the Medicare system instead of all this nonsense about "only" cutting payments to providers.

    "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

    by 2020adam on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 08:53:06 PM PST

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    •  Yes, 2020adam, I think you shoud advocate for (2+ / 0-)
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      raising the Medicare tax rate which has been at 1.45 percent (plus equal employer match) since 1986.

      We all know the price of health care has risen disproportionatey when compared to most other things wee buy since 1986, so the price of Medicare premiums paid during your working years should be rising, too.

      I have advocated increasing the premium on a couple of other diaries recently with little indication that I'm making the point clearly enough. I'm already "over 65," so it won't affect me much, but I'd like to be able to help assure the continuation of Medicare for future seniors (until single payer for everyone is available) if at all possible.

      “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

      by RJDixon74135 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 02:32:32 AM PST

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      •  Let's tackle the other side of the coin, (4+ / 0-)
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        which is the rising cost of health care.  The government should be negotiating drug prices, limiting overhead (as I think it does with ACA), and reining in private insurance companies.  We all know that we live in a society that reveres tests and drugs as the solutions to every medical problem. We also live in a litigious society, so health care providers do many unnecessary things to cover their backsides.

        Ed Schultz showed a table last night that indicated the cost of insuring and caring for people between the ages of 65-67 would go from about $5 bil to over $11 bil, if done by private insurers rather than Medicare.  If I haven't remembered the correct numbers, then substitute "double" for the numbers.

        •  Yes, that must be done, too (2+ / 0-)
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          But I wouldn't depend on it if I were you.  

          Another thing that would help would be to get jobs for the millenials (aka the echo boomers) born between 1982 and 1995. Believe it or not, they make up about one third of the US population. Once they are working and paying in to Medicare and Social Security, both systems should smooth out. And, we should definitely NOT let Republicans plan for the future of those programs based on the notion that this economy, the worst since the great depression, will continue forever.

          But, if raising the Medicare tax one-half percent assures the future of the program, it's worth it.

          “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

          by RJDixon74135 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55:21 AM PST

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