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  •  This is a prelude... (8+ / 0-)

    and I think it's absolutely perfect.  Once the courts rule that they cannot interfere in Congressional rules, the Republicans will have no recourse after Reid changes the filibuster rule.

    This ruling will preempt a Republican challenge.

    "Ich bin ein Dachs!"

    by PvtJarHead on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 03:27:05 PM PST

    •  PvtJ - I don't think the Senate Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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      have ever thought they had legal recourse for changing the filibuster rules in the Senate.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 03:40:01 PM PST

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      •  Your comment makes no sense.... (2+ / 0-)
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        The Rs could have legally changed the rules at the beginning of any Congress where they had the majority.  Now, if you meant "challenge" it makes slightly more sense, but...

        Wingnut heads will explode when Reid reforms the filibuster.  Some will call it unconstitutional.  Some will call it treason.  Some will say it's the equivalent of a coup.  If you don't think the Rs will try every conceivable option to try to stop it you're kidding yourself.

        They absolutely would try to fight it in court...  With this move they're stopped before they get the chance.

        "Ich bin ein Dachs!"

        by PvtJarHead on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 04:43:05 PM PST

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        •  the (R)s never would've challenged (3+ / 0-)
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          filibuster rules in court.  that was the point.

        •  PvtJ - Nope (0+ / 0-)

          The R's understand that the Senate can change its own rules and have never thought the courts were a remedy for changes in the filibuster rules regardless of this case. If the rules are changed they won't like it, but they would have never gone to court to stop them. My guess is that the filibuster rule changes will be modest and done with consultation from the Rs. Reid does not have 51 votes for substantive changes in the filibuster rules.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 12:05:00 AM PST

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          •  I think PvtJ's point was not that (0+ / 0-)

            the R Senators' heads would explode, but rather that their constituents' heads would explode. Not that I'm advocating violence, but for me, that would constitute a win/win scenario if done literally.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 09:19:11 AM PST

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