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  •  You don't have to penetrate a woman to (2+ / 0-)
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    FourthOfJulyAsburyPark, Avilyn

    absolutely get her pregnant. Just get close enough. And if he didn't have sex a lot, then that meant he had a lot of swimmers, this could also be extra true if he were also healthy and young.

    Sperm can live hours outside of the penis and the vagina. Add to that if he were not fully erect,  or not well endowed then it might not feel like sexual intercourse at all.

    Besides when you trust the person next to you in bed, even if you are a light sleeper under other circumstances, you might not be next to your partner, simply because you feel safe.

    •  Somehow I skipped words. (2+ / 0-)
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      FourthOfJulyAsburyPark, Avilyn

      You might not wake up, if your partner moves around simply because you feel safe next to them, non-threatened.

    •  but you have to remove clothing (1+ / 0-)
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      FourthOfJulyAsburyPark

      to get to that point.  

      I believe the diarist, just confused as to how someone can sleep through that.

      95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

      by PRRedlin on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 10:30:54 AM PST

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      •  Answered this above. (1+ / 0-)
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        Avilyn

        By the way, it's probably your tone, but I have taken offense to any of your questions.

        •  have *not* taken offense - sorry. (1+ / 0-)
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          •  good because i did not mean any offense (1+ / 0-)
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            FourthOfJulyAsburyPark

            just trying to understand how this can actually happen to someone.

            If i try for some "hey hey" with my wife while she's sleeping, she instantly wakes up, says no, and makes me feel like a bad puppy.

            95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

            by PRRedlin on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 11:12:15 AM PST

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            •  I am the light sleeper in the house, and probably (2+ / 0-)
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              Avilyn, Cassandra Waites

              of all the family members in any direction. My spouse and children sleep through anything and everything. Sometimes I envy them that ability. To sleep so soundly. People are different in this respect. Some of it natural, some of it conditioned, but different nonetheless.

              I sleep deeper when I am surrounded by my family, than I would in other areas, because I feel safer. That is usually how it is for people in caring relationships. It's can and should be a major component--feeling safe.

              Some people, unfortunately are not always blessed with trusting, safe relationships where they can sleep without a care on their mind. And some, like this woman, found out after the fact.

              How did he get her clothes off? They have no kids at this point. She could have been in the buff and that would not be unheard of. That is another component of trust. Being able to be naked around your S.O. and feel safe, even if you are asleep and naked.

              A thoughtful partner would not go there at all.

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