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  •  There was just an article on Cracked about people (3+ / 0-)

    who slept through the most "amazing" things, like the kid who slept through the sinking of the Titanic (and his subsequent rescue), multiple people sleeping through plane crashes who woke up having no idea what happened and having felt nothing, etc. etc.

    I understand light sleepers don't quite get how incredibly deep others can retract especially during the REM phase (which altogether takes up 25% of a person's sleep). But seriously, if the diarist has the incredible courage to talk about what happened to them, why are you even questioning them? There are enough accounts of rape happening while partners where sleeping (as recalled by witnesses, the partner who experienced pain and other indications when they woke up later and/or having a vague recalling of having been penetrated while they couldn't do anything, by confessions of the perpetrators, etc.) - if you didn't know, why just not Google it? Is this the appropriate place to question it?

    And deep sleepers have huge trouble waking up, as well. If they're sleeping and they're in their REM cycle and you try and wake them up they experience things like sleep paralysis (being semi-aware of everything but not being able to move at all) or are so far gone they either don't register anything, they register something and don't remember it the morning after, think they are dreaming or just don't wake up whatsoever.

    •  as i stated above (1+ / 0-)
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      i'm not questioning whether it happened, but HOW.

      95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

      by PRRedlin on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 11:13:19 AM PST

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    •  Dad slept through an earthquake. (3+ / 0-)

      Of over 6.0 intensity where he was sleeping.

      Note: Given this and historical data, if New Madrid 'goes' in the middle of the night, he WILL sleep through it. In fact, he will probably be THE ONLY PERSON IN THE STATE to sleep through it.

      Yes, some people do sleep heavily enough that the world could end around them and they would not flinch.

      Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

      by Cassandra Waites on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 11:26:24 AM PST

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    •  I've been woken up by the phone, had short (4+ / 0-)

      conversations and gone back to bed and never knew it had happened except the other person mentioned it to me. An the sleep paralysis, I've experienced it, too. Part of being a deep sleeper is waking up slowly. It took me years to realize that the only compensation was to get to bed early enough that the alarms don't really matter.

      •  It bugs the heck out of me when people (1+ / 0-)
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        are incredulous about things in other peoples' lives simply because they don't experience themselves.  It blows me away all of the people, for example, who don't think that restless leg (which I have occasionally, as does my younger sister) is real, that I'm just "making it up" or something, that it's some conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to sell drugs (sorry, I had it long before there were any drugs on the market, and I don't take any drugs for it).  There are whole threads on the net of people making fun of the concept of restless leg syndrome.  It's not damned funny when you're the one who spends hours awake when you're exhausted because your limbs feel like that feeling when you've been sitting for hours on a plane and you just need to get up, times 100, without it going away immediately when you actually do get up.

        Thankfully, I only get it rarely.  My little sister gets it a lot more often than me.

        Another thing I've gotten (thankfully only occasionally) that I've had people incredulous about is paralysis during sex.  I'm not talking about something emotional or anything like that, but literal "can't move my extremities" paralysis.  Starts in the fingers and spreads until my hands are locked in a crab-claw shape, then goes up the arms.  Not sure how far it could go, I've always stopped when the tingling that precedes it starts to get to my abdomen.  A doctor that I talked to thinks that in some situations I breathe too much which lowers my blood CO2 below normal, making my blood too basic and preventing it from carrying oxygen right (hyperventilation tetany).

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